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al2o3cr ◴[] No.43234929[source]

    My cynical side suspects they may have been looking for
    a reason to dismiss the technology and jumped at the first
    one they found.
MY cynical side suggests the author is an LLM fanboi who prefers not to think that hallucinating easy stuff strongly implies hallucinating harder stuff, and therefore jumps at the first reason to dismiss the criticism.
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williamcotton ◴[] No.43235138[source]
What do you mean by "harder stuff"? What about an experimental DSL written in C with a recursive descent parser and a web server runtime that includes Lua, jq, a Postgres connection pool, mustache templates, request-based memory arena, database migrations and much more? 11,000+ lines of code with ~90% written by Claude in Cursor Composer.

https://github.com/williamcotton/webdsl

Frankly us "fanbois" are just a little sick and tired of being told that we must be terrible developers working on simple toys if we find any value from these tools!

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1. rhubarbtree ◴[] No.43239166[source]
I’m always really sceptical of any “proof by example” that is essentially anecdotal.

If this is going to be your argument, you need a solid scientific approach. A study where N developers are given access to a tool vs N that are not, controls are in place etc.

Because the overwhelming majority of coders I speak to are saying exactly the same thing, which is LLMs are a small productivity boost. And the majority of cursor users, which is admittedly a much smaller number, are saying it just gets stuck playing whack a mole. And common sense says these are the expected outcomes, so we are going to need really rigorous work to convince people that LLMs can build 90% of most deeply technical projects. Exceptional results require exceptional evidence.

And when we do see anecdotal incidents that seem so divergent from the norm, well that then makes you wonder how that can be, is this really objective or are we in some kind of ideological debate?