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anotherpaulg ◴[] No.43164684[source]
Claude 3.7 Sonnet scored 60.4% on the aider polyglot leaderboard [0], WITHOUT USING THINKING.

Tied for 3rd place with o3-mini-high. Sonnet 3.7 has the highest non-thinking score, taking that title from Sonnet 3.5.

Aider 0.75.0 is out with support for 3.7 Sonnet [1].

Thinking support and thinking benchmark results coming soon.

[0] https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/

[1] https://aider.chat/HISTORY.html#aider-v0750

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nightpool ◴[] No.43166387[source]
> 225 coding exercises from Exercism

Has there been any effort taken to reduce data leakage of this test set? Sounds like these exercises were available on the internet pre-2023, so they'll probably be included in the training data for any modern model, no?

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jonplackett ◴[] No.43169765[source]
I like to make up my own tests, that way you know it is actually thinking.

Tests that require thinking about the physical world are the most revealing.

My new favourite is:

You have 2 minutes to cool down a cup of coffee to the lowest temp you can.

You have two options: 1. Add cold milk immediately, then let it sit for 2 mins.

2. Let it sit for 2 mins, then add cold milk.

Which one cools the coffee to the lowest temperature and why?

Phrased this way without any help, all but the thinking models get it wrong

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akoboldfrying ◴[] No.43169841[source]
The fact that the answer is interesting makes me suspect that it's not a good test for thinking. I remember reading the explanation for the answer somewhere on the internet years ago, and it's stayed with me ever since. It's interesting enough that it's probably been written about multiple times in multiple places. So I think it would probably stay with a transformer trained on large volumes of data from the internet too.

I think a better test of thinking is to provide detail about something so mundane and esoteric that no one would have ever thought to communicate it to other people for entertainment, and then ask it a question about that pile of boring details.

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xx_ns ◴[] No.43169860[source]
Out of curiosity, what is the answer? From your comment, it seems like the more obvious choice is the incorrect one.

EDIT: By the more obvious one, I mean letting it cool and then adding milk. As the temperature difference between the coffee and the surrounding air is higher, the coffee cools down faster. Is this wrong?

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1. danbruc ◴[] No.43169905[source]
That is the correct answer. Also there is a lot of potential nuance, like evaporation or when you take the milk out of the fridge or the specific temperatures of everything, but under realistic settings adding the milk late will get you the colder coffee.
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2. ac2u ◴[] No.43173123[source]
Does the ceramic mug become a factor? As in adding milk first allows the milk to absorb heat that otherwise would have been stored in the mug too quickly and then radiate back into the liquid over time slowing its cooling curve. (I have no idea btw I just enjoy trying to come up with gotchas)