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majgr ◴[] No.42959854[source]
Living in Poland ruled by trumpists for 8 years I have these experiences:

- Get subscription of high value newspaper or magazine. Professionals work there, so you will get real facts, worthy opinions and less emotions.

- It is better to not use social media. You never know if you are discussing with normal person, a political party troll, or Russian troll.

- It is not worth discussing with „switched-on” people. They are getting high doses of emotional content, they are made to feel like victims, facts does not matter at all. Political beliefs are intermingled with religious beliefs.

- emotional content is being treated with higher priority by brain, so it is better to stay away from it, or it will ruin your evening.

- people are getting addicted to emotions and victimization, so after public broadcaster has been freed from it, around 5% people switched to private tv station to get their daily doses.

- social media feels like a new kind of virus, we all need to get sick and develop some immunity to it.

- in the end, there are more reasonable people, but democracies needs to develop better constitutional/law systems, with very short feedback loop. It is very important to have fast reaction on breaking the law by ruling regime.

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user3939382 ◴[] No.42961374[source]
> Get subscription of high value newspaper or magazine. Professionals work there, so you will get real facts, worthy opinions and less emotions.

All printed papers in the US that I’m aware of serve corporate political interests so I lost you there. Then you have magazines that are aligned with various think tanks and lobbyists. The truth isn’t somewhere in the middle of all this, it’s with totally independent journalists on new media like Rumble.

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bluebarbet ◴[] No.42961672[source]
This take seems to me to be a classic case of the US tendency to irrational suspicion as first described in the Hofstadter essay The Paranoid Style in American Politics.

I'm not American but I do subscribe to The Atlantic, which seems to be owned by some kind of philanthropic trust with a do-gooding billionaire at the helm. As a European, that's plenty good enough for me. Financial incentives are important but they're not everything. We also sometimes need to trust in the good faith of professionals who take their jobs seriously. In this case journalists. Journalism is itself a corporate body of sorts, i.e. a guild. Its mission is to seek truth, just as the medical guild's mission is to heal. Personally, I choose to take both groups of professionals at their word.

A subscription to The Atlantic is a great deal, by the way. The volume of content is manageably low and the quality is consistently excellent.

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wonderwonder ◴[] No.42961990[source]
Atlantic is owned by Steve Job's ex wife, Laurene Powell Jobs. She is openly anti-trump.

Not saying its not a good paper, just saying you are not going to get neutral news from them.

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tuukkah ◴[] No.42962128[source]
An owner of a newspaper doesn't have to destroy the journalistic independence of the newspaper's editors.
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1. lazide ◴[] No.42962292[source]
And someone’s ex doesn’t have to call them shitty either.

But oh boy does it happen.

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2. tuukkah ◴[] No.42962359[source]
By your logic, everyone who has an ex talks shit. It does happen, but it doesn't make valid reasoning.
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3. lazide ◴[] No.42962380[source]
I’m saying if you don’t seriously consider that someone is talking shit about their ex when talking to someone, until proven otherwise, you’ll be easy to fool eh?
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4. tuukkah ◴[] No.42962499{3}[source]
The claim I was commenting on was "you are not going to get neutral news from them." Neither Powell Jobs nor The Atlantic is an ex of Trump.
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5. lazide ◴[] No.42970561{4}[source]
So close…

They are political opponents though, correct?

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6. brookst ◴[] No.42983702{5}[source]
Wait, so I can’t get neutral news about cancer from an oncologist?
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7. lazide ◴[] No.42990060{6}[source]
Is your oncologist leading a controversial campaign against another set of oncologists with opposing views?
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8. brookst ◴[] No.42996353{7}[source]
No, he just says cancer is bad. But apparently everything needs “both sides” treatment these days.