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Hello.

Cloudflare's Browser Intergrity Check/Verification/Challenge feature used by many websites, is denying access to users of non-mainstream browsers like Pale Moon.

Users reports began on January 31:

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=32045

This situation occurs at least once a year, and there is no easy way to contact Cloudflare. Their "Submit feedback" tool yields no results. A Cloudflare Community topic was flagged as "spam" by members of that community and was promptly locked with no real solution, and no official response from Cloudflare:

https://community.cloudflare.com/t/access-denied-to-pale-moo...

Partial list of other browsers that are being denied access:

Falkon, SeaMonkey, IceCat, Basilisk.

Hacker News 2022 post about the same issue, which brought attention and had Cloudflare quickly patching the issue:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31317886

A Cloudflare product manager declared back then: "...we do not want to be in the business of saying one browser is more legitimate than another."

As of now, there is no official response from Cloudflare. Internet access is still denied by their tool.

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lofaszvanitt ◴[] No.42954915[source]
Cloudflare is slowly but surely turning the web into a walled garden.
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1. airhangerf15 ◴[] No.42957933[source]
Slowly? Have you not watched the pot boil around you for the past decade? There are zero good search engines. Everything returns propaganda.

This is all as it was intended.

replies(2): >>42961396 #>>42970609 #
2. eitland ◴[] No.42961396[source]
> There are zero good search engines. Everything returns propaganda.

Kagi exists and has been production quality and better than Google for over two years already. (At this point I think it is even better than old google.)

3. lofaszvanitt ◴[] No.42970609[source]
since the invention of llms it's not that much of a deal that search engines are useless