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aucisson_masque ◴[] No.42956422[source]
Lots of people suggesting to build chicken coop. i have one, sure it's not much work. 2 minutes every day to grab the egg and bring the food and water, but then every 3 year you got to take the hatchet, grab each chicken, cut right on the neck and then hang it with it's feet while it's bleeding out and flapping its wings.

then there are the few occasion where you miss with the hatchet and it cuts half its neck, its head hanging down, attached by a quarter of the neck from it's body with the blood jumping out and the chicken running in circle for quite a lot of time.

it's also rare but sometimes even when you cut perfectly, the chicken will manage to get out of your hand and again you got to watch a headless chicken running in circle for some time.

If you are the kind of animal loving people in city, i'm not sure it's worth it.

bonus point, in summer you get a lot of fly because of the chicken shit, they reproduce in that. you can get in there and clean it everyday but it's a lot of work, and fly traps barely works when the heat is shinning strongly on the chicken shit. fly reproduce too damn quick.

Also chicken have hierarchy where all the up top chicken will bite on the ass of the chicken under it, so if you are the top chicken you got a nice ass but the one at the bottom it has a bleedy ass and sometimes they manage to kill them.

if you got to buy another chicken to replace it, it may not be accepted by the old one and so again -> bottom hierarchy, death by ass biting lol. it's funny but it significantly decrease the economic worthiness when you got to replace you chicken once in a while.

Beside i don't know what you do with chicken corpse in city, you aren't going to put it in recycling can.

Support your local farmer.

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1. cco ◴[] No.42957527[source]
Having slaughtered my fair share of chickens on a relatively small but not back yard operation, there is a much easier way!

Buy a t-post (any 3-5 foot rigid metal pole will do but a t-post has perfect geometry). Next, you'll grab your chicken, lay her down on her back or stomach [1], once she has settled down you're going to lay the t-post gently across her spine just a bit behind her skull.

Now place your feet on either side of the t-post to secure it, grab her legs, and in one swift motion pull and stand up.

You will very quickly decapitate the hen and once you do it a couple times it'll be very low stress for both you and the chicken. This latter part is key, if you're stressed, unsure etc, the animals will be the same.

You can improve this further by keeping an upside down traffic cone around, drop the bird into it once slaughtered and that'll contain the flapping/running around you mention.

In my experience, for novices, this is the easiest method for all parties and reduces the risk of slips, mistakes etc.

[1] Back is sometimes easier, they'll often go into a trance. Sometimes you can lay them on their stomach and trace a line to relax them, there are youtube videos of this.

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2. BrokenInterface ◴[] No.42960482[source]
Can I just say you've made my day with:

"You will very quickly decapitate the hen and once you do it a couple times it'll be very low stress for both you and the chicken."

Best giggle I had in years!

3. wil421 ◴[] No.42963132[source]
Use a traffic cone. It will be easier and calm the chicken down.
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4. Yajirobe ◴[] No.42963421[source]
This is all so brutal. I can’t believe you people are discussing such things so nonchalantly
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5. cullenking ◴[] No.42964463[source]
it's hard to do, but easy to talk about. i've done my fair share of slaughtering and currently have a freezer full of meat birds. i don't like the process (you feel bad, you have to do things that also are instinctually gross to someone not used to it), but i will continue to eat meat because i think it's part of a balanced and healthy diet.

i do respect vegans though - many people don't live by any principles so it's nice to see them on display. my principle on this topic is that if i'm not willing to do it myself, then i probably shouldn't offload it to someone else and still consume the end result.

6. highstep ◴[] No.42965703[source]
highly agree. after using a cone anything else seems haphazard and cruel.
7. picture ◴[] No.42966325[source]
I think your sentiment encapsulates the hypocrisy of modern people where the systems have developed over thousands of years to further and further insulate us from all the less pretty aspects of life, to a point where we largely forget the fact that we shit and kill things for food and greed. Our meat comes pre-portioned on a polystyrene tray and wrapped under cellophane. Just abstract blocks of yummy protein. We also built garbage collection and sewer systems that lets most of us forget about the waste we produce. Out of sight, out of mind.

Humanely dispatching chicken is probably among the most mundane, natural, necessary, and arguably righteous aspects of what humans do to survive. While this part of the modern system is certainly not a "bad thing", I still think about my friend's opinion that everyone who eats meat should kill and process a living creature at least once in their life. If they can't handle it, then they shouldn't eat meat

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8. rurp ◴[] No.42966663{3}[source]
Well said. I'll just add that even vegetarianism gets idealized as well. The farmers growing those crops do far worse things than humanely killing a chicken to vast amounts of wildlife that they perceive as pests.
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9. MRPockets ◴[] No.42966811{3}[source]
I don't think hypocrisy is really the best word. The GP's objection may be uninformed or out of line with reality, but it is (likely) the result of the very distance between food source and consumption that you are talking about; ignorance not hypocrisy.

I have had the opportunity to hunt twice in my life; both times I harvested a deer. I would happily do so again. But while I disagree with the sentiment of the GP, I do agree that there is something profound about killing an animal (for food or otherwise) such that talking about it nonchalantly can be startling.

I'm probably just nitpicking here.

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10. cco ◴[] No.42967264[source]
Definitely can help, but I've found that for people that don't do it very often, it's very easy to make mistakes with a knife. The t-post method has very little opportunity for mistakes and really makes it a lot easier for people that don't have a ton of experience, i.e. backyard poultry owners.
11. cco ◴[] No.42967307{4}[source]
Perhaps expected, but I have similar feelings towards people that work at slaughterhouses. So I definitely can understand where GP is coming from.

But like you and the other poster said, killing an animal for food is a deeply ambivalent experience. For me at least.

12. aucisson_masque ◴[] No.42970841[source]
That's actually very clever.
13. aucisson_masque ◴[] No.42970866{3}[source]
All this kind of city people thinking goes out of the windows once you're very hungry.

Then you see everything as a piece of meat.

14. myroon5 ◴[] No.42988944{4}[source]
Vegetarianism also reduces crop farming since most crops aren't directly eaten by humans (especially in richer countries):

https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets

15. mbs159 ◴[] No.43038833[source]
Wait till you see how they do it in slaughterhouses, you'll think this guy is a saint