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yowayb ◴[] No.42949712[source]
Those of us in the west tend to forget that much of what we see is a form of propaganda, whether by governments or businesses, or even a large number of people. When you keep this in mind, everything you see becomes an opinion and your mind can comfortably (or at least not emotionally/hurriedly) form your own opinion over time.
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browningstreet ◴[] No.42949956[source]
I agree that most messaging is propaganda, but that doesn't really counter the real pain that is being inflicted upon large populations of people by these government (and corporate) moves, and being cheered on by pretty large masses of people. The propaganda is like environmental pollution -- hard not to breathe it in. That said, I have no answer here..
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gadders ◴[] No.42953345[source]
There was just as much "large pain" being inflicted on people in the previous 4 years, it just didn't affect you personally.
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braiamp ◴[] No.42953487{3}[source]
Dude, lets be real here: most people would say the economy is shit, while still being comfortable with their lives. Anyone's general assessment of the economy based on gut, is meaningless. Unless you were on food banks/stamps, you were doing pretty good for all intents and purposes.
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lazyeye ◴[] No.42953768{4}[source]
This statement is ridiculously out of touch.
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HEmanZ ◴[] No.42955305{5}[source]
There is a massive amount of evidence that Americans basically think everyone else is having a terrible time, but asked to review their own living situation things are going well. Here’s a decent summary from late 2024: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/23/opinion/biden-trump-vibec...

Instead of engaging in the data, opponents usually yell the equivalent of what you put “You’re just out of touch!” Or throw in an anecdote like “well my cousin is having a terrible time!”.

What’s going on the US is weirder than a “normal” economic problem. That’s what makes it so frustrating and politically polarizing.

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lazyeye ◴[] No.42956563{6}[source]
Sorry but quoting the NYTimes as evidence would be no different from a Republican quoting Fox News as evidence to you.

Here's an old quote from the author, the esteemable Paul Krugman

“The growth of the Internet will slow drastically, as the flaw in ‘Metcalfe’s law’—which states that the number of potential connections in a network is proportional to the square of the number of participants—becomes apparent: most people have nothing to say to each other! By 2005 or so, it will become clear that the Internet’s impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine’s.”

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1. lazyeye ◴[] No.42956637{7}[source]
Here's another mea culpa from Paul Krugman (he was wrong about globalization).

What Economists (Including Me) Got Wrong About Globalization https://archive.md/DrJKm

If you stick up a liquor and kill a couple of people you go to jail for life. If you advocate for polices that destroy the local economies of middle America with all the ills that ensue...social breakdown, drug addiction/overdoses, crime etc. Well you get to write a mea culpa and then head off to a nice dinner at your favorite NY restaurant I guess.