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1. colonial ◴[] No.42951468[source]
Yup, bird flu moment. I'm very glad my family put up a chicken coop in our backyard years ago; we get a ~carton a day, and they last forever even outside the fridge due to the natural "sealant" still being intact.

Hopefully store prices will come down as the year goes on and flocks bounce back.

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2. ars ◴[] No.42951685[source]
The commercial eggs also last forever outside the fridge. That thing about the natural sealant is a widely believed myth.

Source: I leave my commercial eggs outside the fridge, and they last with zero problems.

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3. declan_roberts ◴[] No.42952853[source]
I don't think it's a myth compared to unwashed eggs.

You should try leaving washed eggs out on the counter for 20+ days (incubation for a chicken) and see.

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4. bink ◴[] No.42952880[source]
As I understand it this can be safe or not-so-safe depending on where you live. If you're in the US you're likely buying sanitized eggs, whereas that's not standard practice in most other countries.
5. ars ◴[] No.42953067{3}[source]
I've left them for 2 months (I found a big sale, so I bought a bunch). The yolk broke easily when I opened the egg, but it was perfectly fine to eat. And it was not small and dried out as implied by someone in the thread.
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6. gretch ◴[] No.42953385[source]
I've been thinking about this for a while as well

A question if you have time to answer - How many birds per sq meter do you have? What's your total land area? And how do you deal with accumulation of chicken poop?

Thanks

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7. bena ◴[] No.42954487{3}[source]
Are you implying that these eggs would incubate chicks? Or are you using the incubation time as a sort of natural timer? Like they would last that long if they were unwashed, but washed eggs wouldn't last even the incubation period.
8. sva_ ◴[] No.42955548[source]
> source: anecdote/survivorship bias
9. sethammons ◴[] No.42955833[source]
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8561600/

what myth are you talking about?

The study found that washed eggs had higher bacterial counts in their contents after storage compared to unwashed eggs, particularly at higher temperatures. Key findings include:

Cold Storage (4°C for 8 weeks): There was no significant difference in bacterial counts between washed and unwashed eggs.

Warm Storage (30°C for 12 days): Washed eggs showed significantly higher bacterial contamination, suggesting that washing increased the likelihood of bacterial penetration.

Bacterial Types: The number of hemolytic bacteria and coli-aerogenes was also higher in washed eggs.

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10. jkestner ◴[] No.42955930[source]
With a coop, it's a bit like a litter box. We put down hay, and change it out with the poop every couple of weeks, into a compost pile.

Chickens are way easier than a dog or cat day-to-day, with distributed risk.

11. mrguyorama ◴[] No.42956870{4}[source]
Food borne illnesses are not a guarantee, and doing the thing the FDA calls dangerous a hundred times might still mean you never get sick, because you got lucky or some other safety caught you.

I have eaten genuinely year old (and older) eggs with no issues. That doesn't mean it is a myth that eggs only last 5 weeks in the fridge, it just means that I was putting myself in extra danger out of a weird sense of frugality and laziness.

I've also eaten pounds and pounds of raw cookie dough and not gotten sick, but that doesn't mean raw cookie dough doesn't have an inherent salmonella danger (ironically for this conversation it mostly comes from the flour!)

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12. ars ◴[] No.42957520{3}[source]
First of all the washing procedure they used is not what is used commercially. Commercially they also spray mineral oil on the eggs which this study did not do.

And then of course there's this line:

"These differences between unwashed and washed eggs are not significant."

13. nearbuy ◴[] No.42958336{5}[source]
This is true, but the FDA doesn't back up the original claim that unwashed eggs don't need to be refrigerated. They say to put all eggs in the fridge.
14. colonial ◴[] No.42959634[source]
Off the top of my head:

* Maybe 0.25 birds/square meter? There's ~12 total (we raise some for slaughter now, so it fluctuates) and they have a large enclosed outdoor area attached to the much smaller (6m^2, perhaps a bit more) indoor coop.

* Several acres. We let them free roam during the day with someone to supervise, but otherwise they have to stay secured (coyotes.)

* Inside the coop, the standard way is the "deep litter" method. You cover the floor in several inches of pine shavings and turn it over with a rake daily. Add a new bag of shavings here and there, and cycle it out completely maybe twice a year. The old bedding makes for good compost. If it doesn't smell, then you're good. For the outdoor area, we just auger it over and add mulch/soil around the same time the bedding is replaced.

(Note - tending to the birds hasn't been in my wheelhouse for a while, so don't take this as gospel!)