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The FAA’s Hiring Scandal

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1. hitekker ◴[] No.42951133[source]
For those curious, you can try the FAA's air traffic controller test for yourself here: https://kaisoapbox.com/projects/faa_biographical_assessment/

After trying it, I recommend reading the article for yourself.

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2. sashank_1509 ◴[] No.42952928[source]
Wow, how can anyone take that test and defend FAA hiring practices. This is dystopia level nonsense
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3. UberFly ◴[] No.42953083[source]
Unfortunately this dystopia level nonsense has infected a lot lately and I'm glad it's finally getting some sunshine applied to it.
4. drivebyhooting ◴[] No.42953935[source]
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

How can an agency administer that travesty of a test? Heads should be rolling over this.

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5. tstrimple ◴[] No.42956626[source]
It turns out you can’t be an ATC unless your worst subject is science. It’s the only question which awards points.
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6. kristjansson ◴[] No.42956950[source]
NB they still administered a cognitive test to candidates that passed (blegh) the biographical assessment
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7. fwip ◴[] No.42957006[source]
I think you misread something, because that's not true.
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8. daveguy ◴[] No.42957102[source]
This is not the FAA's air traffic controller test. This is the biographical assessment. The air traffic controller test is called the ATSA (formerly AT-SAT) for Air Traffic Skills Assessment (Test).

This gives examples of the test format and questions:

https://pointsixtyfive.com/xenforo/threads/atsa-compilation....

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9. tstrimple ◴[] No.42957220{3}[source]
"It's the only answer for that question which provides points*" Is what I meant.

https://i.imgur.com/2hRa1eQ.png

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10. BonoboIO ◴[] No.42957535[source]
I learned about the opportunity to apply for an Air Traffic Control Specialist (ATCS) job through:

A. A PUBLIC NOTICE OR MEDIA ADVERTISEMENT +5 B. A FRIEND OR RELATIVE 0 C. COLLEGE RECRUITMENT +3 D. WORKING IN SOME OTHER CAPACITY FOR THE AGENCY +3 E. SOME OTHER WAY 0

Wow … I get points for this. No surprise, that this is going south. I m shocked.

11. tengwar2 ◴[] No.42957618{3}[source]
Insufficient information to say whether this is literally true, but if you don't answer "science" you lose 15 points, which is at least a very serious blow to your chances of passing.
12. Aloisius ◴[] No.42958854{4}[source]
It's the first question that provides points, not the only one.
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13. tstrimple ◴[] No.42958978{5}[source]
It clearly states that if you choose anything other than science for that question, you get zero points. It's literally in the quiz and captured in a screen shot. How is this controversial or confusing at all?
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15. Aloisius ◴[] No.42959452{6}[source]
Yes. You get 0 points for that one question. There are 27 other questions which you can get points from.

https://imgur.com/a/Zh8uS88

16. varloid ◴[] No.42959682[source]
After lowering the standards so that 95% of people who took the test would pass.
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17. sethammons ◴[] No.42961236[source]
Congress stopped it 9 years ago.
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18. itsdrewmiller ◴[] No.42969480{3}[source]
They lowered the threshold from 60% pass rate to 95% but then highly prioritized hiring the people who scored at the same 60% pass rate level (88% of offers from that level).
19. sethammons ◴[] No.42971436[source]
Congress stopped it 9 years ago
20. TrapLord_Rhodo ◴[] No.42983805{3}[source]
they scheduled the trial for 2026. Congress hasn't stopped or done anything since.