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S1: A $6 R1 competitor?

(timkellogg.me)
851 points tkellogg | 3 comments | 05 Feb 25 11:05 UTC | HN request time: 0.976s | source
1. hidelooktropic ◴[05 Feb 25 16:40 UTC] No.42951094[source]▶
> I doubt that OpenAI has a realistic path to preventing or even detecting distealing outside of simply not releasing models.

Couldn't they just start hiding the thinking portion?

It would be easy for them to do this. Currently, they already provide one sentence summaries for each step of the thinking I think users would be fine or at least stay if it were changed to provide only that.

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2. Aperocky ◴[05 Feb 25 16:47 UTC] No.42951245[source]▶
They hid it and deepseek came up with R1 anyway, with RL on only results and not even needing any of the thinking tokens that OpenAI hid.
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3. girvo ◴[05 Feb 25 21:33 UTC] No.42955493[source]▶
Which is still the funniest and most interesting result in AI so far IMO. Fascinating, but sort of makes intuitive sense too!