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    1. vanderZwan ◴[] No.42950360[source]

    > Anyway, Waiting for Guffman still holds up, and you can watch it on YouTube, for free.

    On top of that it never was released outside of the US before! As a European fan of Spinal Tap I'm quite excited to finally be able to see this film.

    Also: no mention of The Mission, which is also in the list? That's quite a critically acclaimed one. Just look at these opening paragraphs from its wikipedia page:

    > The Mission is a 1986 British historical drama film about the experiences of a Jesuit missionary in 18th-century South America.[4] Directed by Roland Joffé and written by Robert Bolt, the film stars Robert De Niro, Jeremy Irons, Ray McAnally, Aidan Quinn, Cherie Lunghi, and Liam Neeson.

    > The film premiered in competition at the 39th Cannes Film Festival, winning the Palme d'Or. At the 59th Academy Awards it was nominated for seven awards including Best Picture and Best Director, winning for Best Cinematography. The film has also been cited as one of the greatest religious films of all time, appearing in the Vatican film list's "Religion" section and being number one on the Church Times' Top 50 Religious Films list.

    Oh, and the score is by a certain Ennio Morricone.

    [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IpNXw6Y05M&list=PL7Eup7JXSc...

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mission_(1986_film)

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    2. xhkkffbf ◴[] No.42950579[source]

    Certainly "The Mission" is a great film. Absolutely top notch. And with one of Morricone's better scores.

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    3. tomaytotomato ◴[] No.42950920[source]

    I discovered the Mission through an Ennio Morricone playlist, and didn't regret it.

    Not a religious person but it made me aware of who the Jesuits were and read up on them. Truly a fascinating part of the Catholic Church, they're like crack Navy Seals in religious terms, or 10x engineers of the Vatican :)

    I sometimes program whilst listening to "Gabriel's Oboe" on repeat for hours and hours

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OIna_nXFxM

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    4. zeristor ◴[] No.42950983[source]

    For some reason I thought the Eurythmics single "Missionary Man" which came about at the same time was the film tie in.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionary_Man_(song)

    5. wbl ◴[] No.42951238[source]

    What is the similarity between the Dominicans and the Jesuits?

    Both were started to fight heresy: the Dominicans the Cathars, the Jesuits the Protestants. Both were started by soldiers. Both have unique spiritual disciplines.

    What's the difference? Meet any Cathars lately?

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    6. Mistletoe ◴[] No.42951373[source]

    This is wonderful news. My Waiting for Guffman dvd was lost at some point and I often open its case wanting to watch and remember again and get disappointed like Corky.

    7. cptnapalm ◴[] No.42951877{3}[source]

    10 out of 10. Would guffaw again.

    8. richiebful1 ◴[] No.42951883{3}[source]

    To be fair, the Protestants had the printing press and significant political support on their side

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    9. bregma ◴[] No.42951973{3}[source]

    Jesuits are usually ordained priests. Dominicans are usually not. The difference is black cassocks vs. white tunics.

    10. shermantanktop ◴[] No.42952168[source]

    Waiting For Guffman is a great movie...Christopher Guest has done quite a few in this vein but IMO Guffman is the best.

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    11. mrandish ◴[] No.42952188[source]

    > As a European fan of Spinal Tap I'm quite excited to finally be able to see this film.

    You're in for a treat. While somewhat similar, Waiting for Guffman is a bit different than Spinal Tap. It has layers to the satire that are even more subtle. Not as many call back lines destined to live in memes forever (eg "It goes to eleven"). It's more of a character study that's willing to simply bask in the absolute vacuum of unself-awareness long enough to let it wrap back on itself and evolve into sincere charm. Eugene Levy is a treat as always and Fred Willard's performance evokes echoes of his legendary work on Fernwood Tonight.

    12. sharkweek ◴[] No.42953172[source]

    Waiting For Guffman is perfect, up there in my Mount Rushmore of comedy films.

    The true genius is that where it would be really easy to be mocking these small town people and their hokey play, the movie toes the line flawlessly of making sure the viewer isn’t really laughing AT them all that much. It’s also worth noting that the play itself at the end isn’t a disaster but actually a wonderfully produced show that the audience and town love.

    I think Guest’s more recent films went a bit too far into the “mocking” part of the Mocumentary, but Guffman doesn’t.

    Also worth mentioning Catherine O’Hara drunk in the Chinese restaurant might be one of the most realistic portrayals of being drunk I’ve seen in a movie.

    13. taurknaut ◴[] No.42954486{4}[source]

    Luther also showed up just as the HRE's centralization was beginning to show major major cracks. Luther wasn't the first "heretic" to challenge the catholic church, but he was the first one with major political support (a duke or a prince, I can't recall which).

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    14. wbl ◴[] No.42956817{5}[source]

    There's also the Moravians and Lolards. Everyone knew Catholicism needed to change but it wasn't until the Reformation the pressure existed for the Counter-reformation to overcome the obstacles within the Catholic church.

    15. jzb ◴[] No.42957272[source]

    1986 qualifies as “old movies” now? Time to fill out that AARP paperwork…

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    16. xnorswap ◴[] No.42962156[source]

    Would you have considered a 1947 movie as an "Old movie" in 1986?

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    17. andybak ◴[] No.42964302[source]

    I've heard it referred to as "one of the greatest film scores ever written" and it's a defensible claim.

    18. jzb ◴[] No.42967376{3}[source]

    Listen you…

    19. glaugh ◴[] No.42978464{3}[source]

    I went to a Jesuit high school but am not religious now. But I still have a soft spot for the Jesuits. They tend to be liberal (relatively speaking) and taught extensively about social justice, and generally are very education-oriented.

    20. zvr ◴[] No.43030092[source]

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