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daft_pink ◴[] No.42940027[source]
I feel like we’re just in that period of Downtown Abbey where everyone is waiting for the World War I to start. Everyone can feel that it’s coming and no one can do anything about it.

Reality is in a war between the West vs Russia/Iran/North Korea/China whomever we end up fighting, we’re going to do whatever we can so the Western civilization and soldiers survive and win.

Ultimately Google is a western company and if war breaks out not supporting our civilization/military is going to be wildly unpopular and turn them into a pariah and anything to the contrary was never going to happen.

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1. iteratethis ◴[] No.42940173[source]
The reason war may be coming is because the West is falling apart. The US is isolating itself and bullying its allies. Alternative powers wanting to do something expansive never had a better moment in time to do so.

There was no war forthcoming between an integrated West and any other power. War is coming because there no longer is a West.

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2. NemoNobody ◴[] No.42940406[source]
Right.

So... when the Russian tanks start rolling on the way to Berlin and Chinese troops are marching along that nice new (old) road they finished fixing up - otw to Europe, so if that happens, which looks possible - you think there will be no West??

If the world is to be divided Europe is the lowest hanging and sweetest fruit.

I think there will still be West even if there is a King in the US demanding fealty to part of it - we are the same as they are, it's ridiculous to pretend we are.

Ideology is one thing, survival of people and culture is another.

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3. greenchair ◴[] No.42942755[source]
now that the adults are back in charge, we should be good for a few more years at least.
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4. daft_pink ◴[] No.42942805[source]
The reasons are not the main focus here. The fact is that China's aggressive stance on Taiwan, Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and the alignment with China, North Korea, and Iran are leading to military buildups and alliances worldwide. Google, being a company founded and controlled by Americans, is likely to support the effort if a war occurs, rather than remain passive while their friends and family's children are dying.

Today people have differing views of nuclear weapons, but people who fought near Japan and survived believe the bomb saved their life.

It's easy to pretend you don't have a sides when there is peace, but in this environment google's going to take a side.

5. throwaway743 ◴[] No.42946292[source]
/s
6. iteratethis ◴[] No.42956319[source]
I mean there will be no West as we currently know it. The US is now a hostile state to former allies that collectively make up what we call the West. Thus the West disintegrates.

Each disintegrated part will of course defend itself in case of war, but other scenarios are possible. For example, the EU could actually move closer towards China for trade.

When the US threatens allies with economic disruption or even an invasion, don't be surprised if those countries make alternative plans and team up with alternative powers.

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7. krapp ◴[] No.42956380{3}[source]
There will still be a West, it just won't include the United States.
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8. iteratethis ◴[] No.42956500{4}[source]
Well, yes, that's what I was saying. But a West without the US is not a tiny change.