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651 points openchampagne | 19 comments | 04 Feb 25 16:21 UTC | HN request time: 1.267s | source | bottom
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happyopossum ◴[04 Feb 25 21:12 UTC] No.42938792[source]▶
My wife is in a position (board chair for a co-op) that results in her sending out a lot of invites to events. Evite has kinda been the go-to in her social/co-op group for ages, but man it suuuuuuucks these days. Ads everywhere, annoying patterns, and lacks a bunch of nice features that this seems to have.

Very happy to see this

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echelon ◴[04 Feb 25 22:03 UTC] No.42939573[source]▶
Luma and Partiful are really good.

This Apple thing is going to turn into a "green text" social signalling thing all over again. If you have an Android, you won't be invited.

More scummy Apple social engineering bullshit. Kids that already hate on those having Android colored text bubbles are going to bully each other even more. And of course kids need the latest iPhone, too.

Apple is playing into this brilliantly and it's disgusting.

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astrange ◴[04 Feb 25 22:15 UTC] No.42939739[source]▶
This green text thing only happens in the US. Nobody really uses iMessage elsewhere.
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1. echelon ◴[04 Feb 25 22:17 UTC] No.42939768[source]▶
It shouldn't be allowed in the US. Lina Khan was going to put a stop to it, but tragically that didn't reach its culmination.
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2. briandear ◴[04 Feb 25 22:21 UTC] No.42939820[source]▶
Why? Does the color affect functionality or are we going to pass laws based on feelings?
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3. echelon ◴[04 Feb 25 22:30 UTC] No.42939953[source]▶
> are we going to pass laws based on feelings?

This is very concrete fuckery.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/21/apple-doj-antitrust...

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/28/1241473453/why-green-text-bub...

https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/21/doj-claims-green-bubbles-a...

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4. TheDong ◴[04 Feb 25 22:33 UTC] No.42940002[source]▶
It does. If you try to send a photo in an inferior green bubble chat, you get an error. Face time calls don’t work.

The text is harder to read for me because it’s low contrast and can’t be configured.

It’s significantly less secure, and a government agent required I use blue bubble imessage to submit an important document for security, and wouldn’t accept it by sms or email since both were not secure enough

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5. astrange ◴[04 Feb 25 22:36 UTC] No.42940047{3}[source]▶
That should work now because of RCS.

Email is secure enough though. People make up security rules in their heads all the time, doesn't mean it's true.

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6. Spivak ◴[04 Feb 25 22:53 UTC] No.42940303{3}[source]▶
What are you talking about? Photos have worked in MSS group chats for 10+ years now. They send as shit quality but they work. And now mixed group chats are RCS which has all the important features of iMessage.
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7. simplify ◴[04 Feb 25 22:57 UTC] No.42940351{3}[source]▶
The concrete fuckery:

(Politico) Lower video quality

(NPR) Feeling unwelcome

(TechCrunch) Peer pressure

8. jerlam ◴[04 Feb 25 22:59 UTC] No.42940384{3}[source]▶
Sending a message should just default to MMS, which I agree is lower quality especially for videos, but shouldn't get an error. I'm in multiple group chats with Android users and it's fine other than videos, which are from 2005.

I think SMS/MMS should just go away entirely though.

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9. tick_tock_tick ◴[04 Feb 25 23:05 UTC] No.42940466[source]▶
> Lina Khan was going to put a stop to it, but tragically that didn't reach its culmination.

Lets not kid ourselves she was going to keep focusing on minimum impact, likely to fail cases with good optics, and inventing more obtuse interpretations of anti-trust law while continuing to ignore any real monopolies she could.

10. flutas ◴[04 Feb 25 23:06 UTC] No.42940489{4}[source]▶
Tbh Apple's RCS implementation is so buggy it almost has me on the "they added bugs to keep people off of it" conspiracy train.

As in, during a conversation my phone would send RCS and the iPhone would reply with SMS only. This has happened multiple times with multiple people, and some where RCS won't let us communicate - the messages just disappear into the void, but only when sent from the iPhone.

https://i.imgur.com/FrMfECA.png

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11. TheDong ◴[04 Feb 25 23:23 UTC] No.42940707{4}[source]▶
On my device it always gives me an error telling me to turn on MMS, which is turned on of course.

No, rebooting the phone doesn’t change anything, thanks for suggesting it

12. TheDong ◴[04 Feb 25 23:24 UTC] No.42940726{4}[source]▶
The error tells me to turn on MMS, which is already on.

RCS isn’t an obvious option anywhere

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13. whimsicalism ◴[04 Feb 25 23:29 UTC] No.42940801{4}[source]▶
apple has intentionally handicapped rcs and it is still ongoing
14. dwaltrip ◴[05 Feb 25 00:29 UTC] No.42941541[source]▶
Hate to break it to ya, everything humans do is fundamentally affected by feelings.
15. Aloisius ◴[05 Feb 25 00:38 UTC] No.42941649{5}[source]▶
Settings > Apps > Messages > RCS Messaging

If it isn't there, About > Settings > General > About and tap the Carrier row. If it doesn't say RCS, the carrier doesn't support it.

Also one should note, MMS also requires carrier support and a few carriers don't support it in some countries.

There's a list of supported features for carriers worldwide at https://support.apple.com/en-gb/108048

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16. Aloisius ◴[05 Feb 25 01:22 UTC] No.42942156{5}[source]▶
This happens in Android to Android too, especially with Samsung Messages.

A lot of carrier's RCS implementations are buggy.

17. retetr ◴[05 Feb 25 02:25 UTC] No.42942823{3}[source]▶
If you're in the U.S. and a "government agent" told you to use iMessage, you are 100% being scammed. No way they would accept anything less secure than a fax message or a document portal that looks like it was set up in the 90's.
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18. TheDong ◴[05 Feb 25 06:25 UTC] No.42944635{4}[source]▶
It was certainly not a scam as the process completed successfully after iMessage-ing the required documents.

It wasn't the US though, yeah, but rather some american working for a foreign country's government.

19. TheDong ◴[05 Feb 25 09:03 UTC] No.42945910{6}[source]▶
Got it, I'll move to a country that supports RCS at my earliest convenience, and also not message anyone while I'm roaming to another carrier on vacation.

My carrier should support MMS, but I haven't yet had it work (and inbound messages to my number, like the picture of a family-member's wedding invite sent to my phone number, just silently vanish into the void)... I just kinda assumed it was working as expected since I'd heard so much about the green bubble issues.