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651 points openchampagne | 12 comments | 04 Feb 25 16:21 UTC | HN request time: 0.974s | source | bottom
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roddylindsay ◴[04 Feb 25 16:45 UTC] No.42934839[source]▶
Brilliant move.

The transition of the major social networks over the last 10-15 years -- from being a space for friends to interact to being a space to consume content produced by "unconnected" entities like influencers -- has created a huge opening for someone to claim the friends and family network. There is no one better positioned (at least in the U.S. where iPhones are the majority handset) than Apple.

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pkamb ◴[04 Feb 25 21:26 UTC] No.42938981[source]▶
I think Apple already has claimed the "friends and family network" via iMessage. Did Facebook go to a groups/influencer algorithm by choice or is it the result of IRL friend posters all moving to private chats once everyone got iPhones?
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john2x ◴[04 Feb 25 21:38 UTC] No.42939186[source]▶
I'm still waiting for iMessage to work with Android phones.
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1. thesuitonym ◴[04 Feb 25 21:58 UTC] No.42939502[source]▶
iMessage has been compatible with RCS for months now.
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2. 42772827 ◴[04 Feb 25 22:20 UTC] No.42939807[source]▶
Except if you’re on Google Fi, right?

https://isgooglefircsyet.com/

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3. john2x ◴[04 Feb 25 22:32 UTC] No.42939987[source]▶
A quick search suggests the Android user end needs to install 3rd party apps for it to work? Has that changed recently?
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4. Melatonic ◴[04 Feb 25 22:42 UTC] No.42940126[source]▶
Usually you actually need to not use third party apps. RCS on Android is usually restricted to Google Messages (or maybe Samsungs built in messages app). Everyone else got the boot

You also sometimes have to enable in the settings for Android Messages (and have a supported carrier). iMessage also has an option to enable RCS but I believe its on by default in the newer versions of iOS

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5. whimsicalism ◴[04 Feb 25 23:30 UTC] No.42940824[source]▶
yeah and that is apple's fault, they need to carrier enable
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6. ninkendo ◴[05 Feb 25 00:13 UTC] No.42941366[source]▶
That is ironic, given how the whole push to get Apple to support RCS came from google in the first place. They had that website with the open letter to try and tell Apple that supporting RCS was in everyone’s best interest and would enable Apple and Android users to be on even footing, etc etc.

But then oops, turns out Google’s on wireless service doesn’t even support it. Maybe google didn’t think Apple would call their bluff?

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7. john2x ◴[05 Feb 25 00:22 UTC] No.42941468{3}[source]▶
Hmm ok so it doesn't actually work :(

Even if it worked with 3rd party apps, at that point why not install something like Signal.

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9. thesuitonym ◴[05 Feb 25 15:17 UTC] No.42949646[source]▶
I don't know, I haven't used Android in quite a few years, but it was my understanding that it was in Google's default SMS app. When I got iOS 18, all of my texts to Android users switched automatically to RCS, so they didn't have to do anything.
10. pohuing ◴[06 Feb 25 13:43 UTC] No.42962206[source]▶
I wrote an "SMS" to the previous tenant of my new flat recently and it got seamlessly upgraded to rcs. With me on an android and them on an iPhone. This was using Google messages, which was the default on my zenfone for sms
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11. PaulHoule ◴[06 Feb 25 20:52 UTC] No.42966384{3}[source]▶
Google stole Microsoft's position of "arrogant company that just doesn't get it". What I found about Google comms product was that they worked the worst on slow internet connections of any product. Back when I had 2 Mbps or worse DSL, I could get on meetings with anything that wasn't Google Hangouts, Google Talk, Google Meet, etc. It's like it was with Docker Hub, which had low timeouts that made it impossible for me to actually download images to install anything substantial.

That, plus other little slights like only buying high-quality aerial photos of upstate NY years after Microsoft did left me feeling that Google saw me as a non-person because I didn't live in the bay area, NYC, LA or DC.

12. phatskat ◴[10 Feb 25 08:38 UTC] No.42998090{3}[source]▶
My friend group chat was suddenly RCS after updating iOS today and it’s great - no more “So and so liked ‘the entire message body’” messages, we all just see the thumbs up reaction