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atlasunshrugged ◴[] No.42938788[source]
I'm guessing this will be a somewhat controversial view here, but I think this is net good. The world is more turbulent than at any other time in my life, there is war in Europe, and the U.S. needs every advantage it can get to improve its defense. Companies like Google, OpenAI, Microsoft, can and should be working with the government on defense projects -- I would much rather the Department of Defense have access to the best tools from the private sector than depend on some legacy prime contractor that doesn't have any real tech capabilities.
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croes ◴[] No.42938887[source]
> the U.S. needs every advantage it can get to improve its defense

That’s one of the reasons for the turbulent times. Let’s face the truth, most of the defense can easily be used for offense and given the state of online security every progress gets into the wrong hands.

Maybe it’s time to pause to make it more difficult for those wrong hands.

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atlasunshrugged ◴[] No.42938972[source]
I guess you could put that on the U.S.'s plate and no doubt America has caused many issues around the world, but I think in generally its a good actor. Biggest conflicts today: Ukraine -- I would squarely put this on Russia, nothing to do with the U.S.; Sudan -- Maybe lack of knowledge, but I don't think it's fair to place much responsibility on the U.S. (esp relative to other actors); ditto DRC/Rwanda

Yes, many defensive uses of technologies can be used for offense. When I say defense, I also include offense there as I don't believe you can just have a defensive posture alone to maintain one's defense, you need deterrence too. Personally I'm quite happy to see many in Silicon Valley embrace defense-tech and build missiles (ex. recent YC co), munitions, and dual-use tech. The world is a scary and dangerous place, and awful people will take advantage of the weakness of others if they can. Maybe I'm biased because I spent a lot of time in Eastern Europe and Ukraine, but I much prefer the U.S. with all our faults to another actor like China or Russia being dominant

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1. croes ◴[] No.42939476[source]
I‘m not talking about good and bad but about naive.

„Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.“

Propaganda and disinformation were problems before the AI hype but now it got worse.

In the race for AGI they ignored the risks and didn‘t think of useful counter measures.

It’s easier to spread lies with AI than to spread the truth.

We enter dark aged where most people can’t distinguish fake from real because the faked became so convincing.

Audio, photo and video lost their evidential value.