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qingcharles ◴[] No.42911578[source]
One big privacy issue is that there is no sane way to protect your contact details from being sold, regardless of what you do.

As soon as your cousin clicks "Yes, I would like to share the entire contents of my contacts with you" when they launch TikTok your name, phone number, email etc are all in the crowd.

And I buy this stuff. Every time I need customer service and I'm getting stonewalled I just go onto a marketplace, find an exec and buy their details for pennies and call them up on their cellphone. (this is usually successful, but can backfire badly -- CashApp terminated my account for this shenanigans)

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A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 ◴[] No.42911853[source]
<< find an exec and buy their details for pennies and call them up on their cellphone. (this is usually successful, but can backfire badly -- CashApp terminated my account for this shenanigans)

Honestly, kudos. The rules should apply to the ones foisting this system upon us as well. This is probably the only way to make anyone in power reconsider current setup.

<< As soon as your cousin clicks "Yes, I would like to share the entire contents of my contacts with you" when they launch TikTok your name, phone number, email etc are all in the crowd.

And people laughed at Red Reddington when he said he had no email.

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Aurornis ◴[] No.42913432[source]
> The rules should apply to the ones foisting this system upon us as well. This is probably the only way to make anyone in power reconsider current setup.

Unless your problem is with the company doing the privacy violations, this doesn’t make any sense.

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swiftcoder ◴[] No.42916954[source]
Pretty much all companies are doing the privacy violations. You think your doctors office doesn't sell their contact list?
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1. jlokier ◴[] No.42917112[source]
Where I live, which is not in the USA, I'm confident my doctor's office doesn't sell their contact list - or at least, not without statistical anonymisation and aggregation for research purposes.

They probably outsource processing the data and storing it to other entities, but that will be under contracts which govern how the data may be used and handled. I assume that's not what "sell the data" means in this conversation.

It would be such an egregious violation of local data protection law to sell patient personal details for unrestricted commercial use, including their contact info, and it would make the political news where I live if they were found out.

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2. nottorp ◴[] No.42917926[source]
Also "not in the USA" i actually work on a medical ish application these days (not the in production version, mind but a fork with new features that's entirely separate at the moment).

I have access to ... zero patient data. Our entire test database is synthetic records.

3. WhyNotHugo ◴[] No.43072284[source]
Here in NL my local doctors office just delegates their IT to some US-based company. I doubt they take privacy seriously. Their whole security is a joke. but they make a theatre out of it to give an impression otherwise.

EU law means little in this respect, since it's not enforced and most people don't understand enough on the subject to even evaluate what's going on with their data (or their clients data).