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Apple is open sourcing Swift Build

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612 points dayanruben | 1 comments | 01 Feb 25 16:44 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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sgt ◴[01 Feb 25 17:04 UTC] No.42899856[source]▶
Is Swift actually serious about embedded?
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dlachausse ◴[01 Feb 25 17:13 UTC] No.42899953[source]▶
Yes, there was an entire WWDC ‘24 talk about it…

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2024/10197

Swift is a great language, but it is unfortunately still held back by the stigma of being perceived as only usable on Apple platforms.

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o11c ◴[01 Feb 25 17:17 UTC] No.42899998[source]▶
And until packages are actually shipped for all mainstream distros, the stigma is completely accurate.

No, neither "just install a tarball" nor "just install this docker image" count.

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st3fan ◴[01 Feb 25 19:34 UTC] No.42901385{3}[source]▶
Go has been shipping for more than a decade as a .tgz and does not have this stigma at all ...

Anyway, you probably missed the following

https://www.swift.org/install/linux/

I see packages for all major distros there.

But people will probably mention some distro not listed and say the mainstream distro support is a farce. For some reason people have set the bar for Swift incredibly unrealistically high and there will always be something wrong it.

Your loss though. Swift is amazing. Both on MacOS and Linux.

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1. o11c ◴[01 Feb 25 22:41 UTC] No.42903208{4}[source]▶
If you actually click through, there is exactly one actual distro package there, and it is labeled "experimental". Everything else is exactly what I complained about - something that does not integrate into a real system.

That's not what I call "actually usable on non-Apple systems".