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Apple is open sourcing Swift Build

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612 points dayanruben | 1 comments | 01 Feb 25 16:44 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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sgt ◴[01 Feb 25 17:04 UTC] No.42899856[source]▶
Is Swift actually serious about embedded?
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dlachausse ◴[01 Feb 25 17:13 UTC] No.42899953[source]▶
Yes, there was an entire WWDC ‘24 talk about it…

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2024/10197

Swift is a great language, but it is unfortunately still held back by the stigma of being perceived as only usable on Apple platforms.

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o11c ◴[01 Feb 25 17:17 UTC] No.42899998[source]▶
And until packages are actually shipped for all mainstream distros, the stigma is completely accurate.

No, neither "just install a tarball" nor "just install this docker image" count.

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jitl ◴[01 Feb 25 17:32 UTC] No.42900144[source]▶
Distro packaging for programming language ecosystems is so often hopelessly out of date. I’ve never used a distro toolchain or packages to build production software for any language Python’s age or younger.

Outside of C/C++/Fortran pretty much every project I see on Github prefers things like Rustup or Nix for toolchains to navigate around Debian/Ubuntu/RHEL’s “stability” approach.

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1. cvwright ◴[01 Feb 25 18:06 UTC] No.42900512{4}[source]▶
Or containers. The Swift project is pretty good about keeping their Docker images up to date.