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tux3 ◴[] No.42899950[source]
The goal for Swift should (and seems) to be to gradually separate itself from XCode, which is holding it back from its ambitions.

XCode has been compared to many things, but at 3.1 stars on the App store, one must find that it is still slightly overrated.

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dlachausse ◴[] No.42899981[source]
Swift hasn’t required Xcode for several years now. It has robust command line tooling and a VSCode plugin.

https://www.swift.org/documentation/articles/getting-started...

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tux3 ◴[] No.42900031[source]
I believe it still does at least for iOS, or it did last time I checked (for a Swift library I was writing).
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1. plorkyeran ◴[] No.42900222[source]
Building Swift code for iOS without going through xcodebuild is sort of obnoxious but is possible. You do need to have a copy of Xcode installed regardless of programming language simply because the iOS SDKs aren't distributed separately.