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Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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755 points MedadNewman | 4 comments | 31 Jan 25 19:41 UTC | HN request time: 1.777s | source
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femto ◴[31 Jan 25 21:11 UTC] No.42892058[source]▶
This bypasses the overt censorship on the web interface, but it does not bypass the second, more insidious, level of censorship that is built into the model.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42825573

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42859947

Apparently the model will abandon its "Chain of Thought" (CoT) for certain topics and instead produce a canned response. This effect was the subject of the article "1,156 Questions Censored by DeepSeek", which appeared on HN a few days ago.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42858552

Edit: fix the last link

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blackeyeblitzar ◴[31 Jan 25 23:39 UTC] No.42893794[source]▶
I have seen a lot of people claim the censorship is only in the hosted version of DeepSeek and that running the model offline removes all censorship. But I have also seen many people claim the opposite, that there is still censorship offline. Which is it? And are people saying different things because the offline censorship is only in some models? Is there hard evidence of the offline censorship?
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1. dutchbookmaker ◴[01 Feb 25 02:33 UTC] No.42895087[source]▶
People are stupid.

What is censorship to a puritan? It is a moral good.

As an American, I have put a lot of time into trying to understand Chinese culture.

I can't connect more with the Confucian ideals of learning as a moral good.

There are fundamental differences though from everything I know that are not compatible with Chinese culture.

We can find common ground though on these Confucian ideals that DeepSeek can represent.

I welcome China kicking our ass in technology. It is exactly what is needed in America. America needs a discriminator in an adversarial relationship to progress.

Otherwise, you get Sam Altman and Worldcoin.

No fucking way. Lets go CCP!

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2. Xorger ◴[01 Feb 25 04:17 UTC] No.42895598[source]▶
I don't really understand what you're getting at here, and how it relates to the comment you're replying to.

You seem to be making the point that censorship is a moral good for some people, and that the USA needs competition in technology.

This is all well and good as it's your own opinion, but I don't see what this has to do with the aforementioned comment.

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3. Maken ◴[01 Feb 25 15:52 UTC] No.42899286[source]▶
I think the author of that comment is not exactly fluent in English.
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4. Xorger ◴[02 Feb 25 09:52 UTC] No.42907571{3}[source]▶
Yes, but English is a hard language, so I didn't really want to point it out.