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autoexec ◴[] No.42893484[source]
Every time some product or service introduces AI (or more accurately shoves it down our throats) people start looking for a way to get rid of it.

It's so strange how much money and time companies are pouring into "features" that the public continues to reject at every opportunity.

At this point I'm convinced that the endless AI hype and all the investment is purely due to hopes that it will soon put vast numbers of employees out of work and allow companies to use the massive amounts of data they've collected about us against us more effectively. All the AI being shoehorned into products and services now are mostly to test, improve, and advertise for the AI being used, not to provide any value for users who'd rather have nothing to do with it.

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1. gosub100 ◴[] No.42894345[source]
I'll repeat my favorite quote about it (paraphrased and read it here first but don't recall the attribution): AI can copy a song, tell me a joke, predict what I buy, but I still have to do my own dishes.

If AI (or any tech) could clean, do dishes, or cook (which is not a chore for many, I acknowledge that) it could potentially bring families together and improve the quality of peoples lives.

Instead they are introducing it as a tool to replace jobs, think for us, and mistrust each other ("you sound like an AI bot!/you just copied that from chatgpt! You didn't draw that! How do I know you're real?"

I don't know if they really thought through to an endgame, honestly. How much decimation can you inflict on the economy before the snake eats its own tail?

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2. bbarnett ◴[] No.42894495[source]
2030 at the latest. LLM androids(robots).
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3. gosub100 ◴[] No.42894530[source]
I would be fine with cheating and embedding magnets in the plates or having a special track that fits the plate to the sink. But I find it pathetic that this problem hasn't been solved yet. No one likes doing dishes.
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4. bbarnett ◴[] No.42894540{3}[source]
Well, dishwashers are enough to remove lots of the work. And they can dry the dishes too.

So it's a lower bar, there's a partial solution.

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5. Terr_ ◴[] No.42894625[source]
> LLM androids

They'll make you the perfect pizza with cheese that doesn't slide off because of the glue.

But seriously, I predict inadvisably-applied LLMs are going to eventually end up somewhere between the mistakes of Juicero and the mistakes of leaded gasoline.

6. huhkerrf ◴[] No.42895911[source]
It's "I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes."

Which is a stupid argument, since there is "any tech" that can do your laundry and dishes, and it's been around for decades! Is it too hard for you to put your dishes in the dishwasher, or your clothes in the washing machine?

And I say this as someone bearish on AI.

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7. dragonwriter ◴[] No.42895934[source]
> Is it too hard for you to put your dishes in the dishwasher, or your clothes in the washing machine?

Is it "too hard"? No. Is it a substantial time sink, and one that (in the case of laundry, particularly) breaks up flow, so that it is inconvenient for someone who has to deal with $DAYJOB and those chores and wants to do art and writing (or other personal projects that take focus)? Yes.

8. autoexec ◴[] No.42896832[source]
> If AI (or any tech) could clean, do dishes, or cook (which is not a chore for many, I acknowledge that) it could potentially bring families together and improve the quality of peoples lives.

One day they'll put those kinds of robots in people's homes, but I'll keep them out of mine because they'll be full of sensors, cameras, and microphones connected to the cloud and endlessly streaming everything about your family and your home to multiple third parties. It's hard enough dealing with cell phones and keeping "smart"/IoT crap from spying on us 24/7 and they don't walk around on their own to go snooping.

The sad thing about every technology now is that whatever benefits it might bring to our lives, it will also be working for someone else who wants to use it against us. Your new smart TV is gorgeous but it watches everything you see and inserts ads while your watching a bluray. Your shiny car is self-driving, but you're tracked everywhere you go, there are cameras pointed at you recording and microphones listening the entire time sending real-time data to police and your insurance company. Your fancy AR implant means you'll never forget someone's name since it automatically shows up next to their face when you see them, but now someone else gets to decide what you'll see and what you aren't allowed to see. I think I'll just keep washing my own dishes.

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9. ghaff ◴[] No.42897697{4}[source]
Dishwashers and washing machines don't eliminate cleaning all dishes/kitchen stuff and clothes but, realistically, they cut down on them a lot.
10. gosub100 ◴[] No.42899411[source]
Thanks for correcting the quote, it's been a while since I read it. Yes I struggle with doing chores, mainly because there is no reward and they are tedious and boring and I'd rather spend my time doing interesting things. But AI can't do that for me because it's more profitable for them to use the technology to steal.
11. gosub100 ◴[] No.42899437[source]
I didn't think about the privacy aspect, my concern is mostly with the subscription model. You won't be able to just buy an automatic dishwasher, oh no. You can start out at the basic plan for $x a month and bundle it with countertop plan for $y/month.