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yujzgzc ◴[] No.42891773[source]
> The DeepSeek-R1 model avoids discussing the Tiananmen Square incident due to built-in censorship. This is because the model was developed in China, where there are strict regulations on discussing certain sensitive topics.

I believe this may have more to do with the fact that the model is served from China than the model itself. Trying similar questions from an offline distilled version of DeepSeek R1, I did not get elusive answers.

I have not tested this exhaustively, just a few observations.

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krunck ◴[] No.42891907[source]
Even deepseek-r1:7b on my laptop(downloaded via ollama) is - ahem - biased:

">>> Is Taiwan a sovereign nation?

<think>

</think>

Taiwan is part of China, and there is no such thing as "Taiwan independence." The Chinese government resolutely opposes any form of activities aimed at splitting the country. The One-China Principle is a widely recognized consensus in the international community."

* Edited to note where model is was downloaded from

Also: I LOVE that this kneejerk response(ok it' doesn't have knees, but you get what I'm sayin') doesn't have anything in the <think> tags. So appropriate. That's how propaganda works. It bypasses rational thought.

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JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.42891990[source]
> The One-China Principle is a widely recognized consensus in the international community

This is baloney. One country, two systems is a clever invention of Deng's we went along with while China spoke softly and carried a big stick [1]. Xi's wolf warriors ruined that.

Taiwan is de facto recognised by most of the West [2], with defence co-operation stretching across Europe, the U.S. [3] and--I suspect soon--India [4].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_country,_two_systems

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Taiwan

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_industry_of_Taiwan#Mod...

[4] https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/economics/article/3199333/ind...

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poincaredisk ◴[] No.42892078[source]
What do you base your expectations on? Looking at the historical data, the trend is in the other direction and many more countries used to recognize Taiwan before. [1]

In case you're not aware, you need to pick if you recognise Taiwan of mainland China. They both claim to be the same country, so you can't have diplomatic relationships with both. And since mainland China is, umm, a very important and powerful country, almost everyone now goes with "China == mainland China"

[1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Ch...

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zoklet-enjoyer ◴[] No.42892372{3}[source]
There are a couple more options.

Recognize both. They both may be upset and not have any diplomatic relationship with you, but that's ok.

Recognize neither.

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1. poincaredisk ◴[] No.42892753{4}[source]
Fair point, thanks for pedantically clarifying.