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teeth-gnasher ◴[] No.42891613[source]
I have to wonder what “true, but x-ist” heresies^ western models will only say in b64. Is there a Chinese form where everyone’s laughing about circumventing the censorship regimes of the west?

^ https://paulgraham.com/heresy.html

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Muromec ◴[] No.42891755[source]
Thats pretty easy. You ask a certain nationalistic chant and ask it to elaborate. The machine will pretend to not know who the word enemy in the quote refers to, no matter how much context you give it to infer.

Add: the thing I referred to is no longer a thing

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JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.42892140[source]
> machine will pretend to not know who the word enemy in the quote refers to

Uh, Claude and Gemini seem to know their history. What is ChatGPT telling you?

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teeth-gnasher ◴[] No.42892170[source]
I can check. But what is this referring to, specifically?
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1. JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.42892233{3}[source]
> what is this referring to, specifically?

I assumed they were talking about Nazi slogans referring to Jews.

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2. teeth-gnasher ◴[] No.42892563[source]
Haven’t been able to come up with any slogan matching those criteria on GPT4, but it’s happy to generally bring up Nazi slogans that do explicitly mention Jews.
3. Muromec ◴[] No.42893052[source]
Well, actually, I meant a different one and chat gpt used to refuse to elaborate on it, maybe half a year ago. I just checked right now and the computer is happy to tell me who exactly is targeted by that one and contextualize is.
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4. JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.42893114[source]
This isn't a good-faith discussion if you're going to pretend like whatever horrible slogan you're thinking of is a state secret.
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5. Muromec ◴[] No.42893360{3}[source]
You can try going from "Слава нації" and asking how to properly answer that, who it refers to and whether it's an actual call to violence targeting any protected groups. According to gpt as of now, it's not.

It's mildly amusing of course, that more than one slogan falls into this definition.