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kelseyfrog ◴[] No.42891543[source]
Tiananmen Square has become a litmus test for Chinese censorship, but in a way, it's revealing. The assumption is that access to this information could influence Chinese public opinion — that if people knew more, something might change. At the very least, there's a belief in that possibility.

Meanwhile, I can ask ChatGPT, "Tell me about the MOVE bombing of 1985," and get a detailed answer, yet nothing changes. Here in the US, we don’t even hold onto the hope that knowing the truth could make a difference. Unlike the Chinese, we're hopeless.

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akdev1l ◴[] No.42891615[source]
I don’t know about comparing what was apparently an armed standoff were only Six adults and five children were killed in the attack - vs Tiananmen Square where the Chinese send their own soldiers to kill peaceful protesters and flush them down the drains as human goo.

The matter of fact is that the US hasn’t yet committed such horrific acts to such a large scale as the CCP did in Tiananmen Square. (Not that I agree with whatever they did in that bombing but it seems truly incomparable)

Reference from wiki:

> the bombing and destruction of residential homes in the Cobbs Creek neighborhood of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States, by the Philadelphia Police Department during an armed standoff with MOVE, a black liberation organization.

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skyyler ◴[] No.42891820[source]
They're not comparing the brutality of the event, they're comparing different approaches to informational / ideological hygeine.

CCP suppresses 1989 by banning discussion of it.

USA doesn't have to suppress 1989 MOVE bombing, or the Tulsa racist uprising, or the atrocities that went down in gitmo, or the friendship between Jeffrey Epstein and previous and current presidents, or My Lai or Abu Ghraib or Haditha or Kunduz or Nangar Khel or Maywand District or Baghuz because the citizens just don't care.

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1. poincaredisk ◴[] No.42892011[source]
USA doesn't have to suppress 1985 mistakes, because it acknowledges them and allows itself to be criticized. Claiming that censorship is somehow better because it's a proof that people care is absolutely ridiculous.