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JKCalhoun ◴[] No.42841012[source]
I was lucky to dodge the layoff-bullet a few times in my 26 year stint at Apple. (The layoffs were almost exclusively at the start of my career there, mid-90's, as Apple was circling the drain.)

I was told by a coworker, when I was over 50 or so, that they could not fire me because I could turn around and make it about age discrimination at that point. I don't know if my coworker was correct — there is, as was mentioned in the blog post, a weaselly way where they lay off whole teams to avoid the blowback. (And then may cherry-pick a few of the laid-off engineers and make them a quick offer on another team.)

Earlier though in my career I had a very cool manager (hi, Steve!) that made it clear to me that The Corporation doesn't give a fuck about me. That, to that end, I needed to chart my own career path and not rely on might bright-eyed "beamishness" to get me anywhere.

In the end I did stay with Apple for the whole ride but was quicker to switch teams when I thought I was being either overworked or under-compensated. Seeing the company as the cold entity it is was in fact a liberating concept for me. Fortunately I didn't need to be personally impacted by a layoff to find that out.

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ethbr1 ◴[] No.42841052[source]
> was quicker to switch teams when I thought I was being either overworked or under-compensated

Calling out internal mobility (and normalized support for taking advantage of it!) as a key corporate culture value.

I've worked for companies that make this hard/toxic/impossible and companies that make this easier/normal.

The latter are always better, healthier companies.

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iugtmkbdfil834 ◴[] No.42841576[source]
This. Without going into specifics, I attempted to internally transfer to another team for higher level/better pay position. My current boss said he doesn't have a problem with it. I pre-cleared everything with the possible new boss, but I got mysteriously blocked. Few months later, team member from the other team indicated that they were told not to let it happen ( and who said no ).

Needless to say, I am miffed. The market is what it is right now, but not only am I not 'allowed' to move around, but stuck with the same pay/benefits, because my raise was.. lets say not great.

There is not enough .. not hate.. not enough awareness of how corps fuck you over and HN can help with that a little.

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1. ryandrake ◴[] No.42842889[source]
I've seen this but with the guy's manager being the blocker. Manager tells high-performing employee that he's gone (probably for some BS personal reason--the guy was good), but company policy is that he gets two weeks notice before his last day, and if he can find another team to transfer to, then he can stay. Well, since he's a great employee, multiple teams are interested, but Manager blocks them all, and the guy ends up having to leave.
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2. JKCalhoun ◴[] No.42852550[source]
Yeah, I have heard about "black balling" within a company.