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A layoff fundamentally changed how I perceive work

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1041 points mertbio | 12 comments | 27 Jan 25 08:22 UTC | HN request time: 1.257s | source | bottom
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lm28469 ◴[27 Jan 25 09:30 UTC] No.42839108[source]▶
That's what happened during my first job almost 10 years ago. "we're different than other companies, we're family", "business is always personal", yadda yadda

Then one day out of nowhere "hey btw we're not going to renew your contract, we're nice so we give you an extra 10 days of vacation don't bother coming back tomorrow, oh and all your accesses have been revoked". At least I got the reality check right away, some people get that way down the line when their whole persona has already been built around their job

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0xEF ◴[27 Jan 25 09:42 UTC] No.42839186[source]▶
I think one has some deeper issues to tackle if one is basing their whole persona around their job. This is not a healthy thing to do, regardless of layoffs.
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1. aredox ◴[27 Jan 25 12:34 UTC] No.42840474[source]▶
You can't be aware of the toxicity when your parents, your teachers, your mentors, your bosses and your friends have all the same ethos (and actively put down any other opinion under slurs such as "socialism", "communism", "sloth", "failure of a human being", etc.)
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2. wizzwizz4 ◴[27 Jan 25 12:55 UTC] No.42840632[source]▶
You can: that's (part of) what fiction books are for.
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3. aredox ◴[27 Jan 25 13:24 UTC] No.42840863[source]▶
Like The Fountainhead?
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4. bluGill ◴[27 Jan 25 15:15 UTC] No.42841948[source]▶
> "socialism", "communism",

Both of them as Marx defined them are incompatible with other ideas and so deserve slurs. There are progressive ideologies with influence from Marx that do allow for other ideas to exist. There are many people who will throw away all of liberal philosophy for pure socialism. As soon as you allow for the liberal differences in outcome you have to agree for there won't be true socialism and you have to debate what (if any!) level of safety net you provide and further accept there should not be agreement. This isn't just that we won't agree, but the strong statement that an agreement would be a bad thing.

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5. dumbledoren ◴[27 Jan 25 16:15 UTC] No.42842653[source]▶
Those 'progressive ideologies' with influence from Marx are what make all of what we see today happen. From killing people if they cant pay for healthcare to these sociopathic layoffs 'because AI'. So 'influence from Marx' is just nonsense.

The simple reason why other ideas are not compatible with those two are because those 'other ideas' are geared for making this happen to maximize profit of the few. That's why they are incompatible and whenever you allow them this is what you end up with.

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6. wizzwizz4 ◴[27 Jan 25 17:49 UTC] No.42843695{3}[source]▶
The Fountainhead has value in that it helps teach you that there are people who think like Ayn Rand. I wouldn't say it's particularly realistic, though: there are better books to learn about the world through. (But if you read more than two or three books, you'll quickly learn the problems with Ayn Rand's worldview.)

Books aren't mutable in the same way that arguments are: you can actually sit and dissect a book, in a way that you can't dissect a politician's rhetoric or a parent's scorn. So… kinda, yes: even The Fountainhead is worth reading, to some people (not that I'd recommend it).

7. aredox ◴[27 Jan 25 19:47 UTC] No.42844881[source]▶
Thank you for this unprompted demonstration that the mere mention of "communism" sends some into a ferocious - and vacuous - crusade.

Meanwhile bosses boss people around.

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8. dennis_jeeves2 ◴[28 Jan 25 12:39 UTC] No.42851648{3}[source]▶
Can add Atlas Shrugged and Nineteen Eighty-Four to the list.
9. bluGill ◴[28 Jan 25 22:03 UTC] No.42858653{3}[source]▶
> Meanwhile bosses boss people around

And with that you showed exactly why I have the knee jerk reaction to attack communism every time it is brought up. There is a constant play of this type of thing and people are starting to think that because it is unchallenged it might be right.

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10. bluGill ◴[28 Jan 25 22:05 UTC] No.42858666{3}[source]▶
That is a completely false representation of what then other ideas really are about.
11. int_19h ◴[29 Jan 25 10:12 UTC] No.42863358[source]▶
Why should one care how Marx defined "socialism"? The term predates him by many decades, so he doesn't get to say what is "true socialism" and what isn't.
12. aredox ◴[29 Jan 25 16:29 UTC] No.42867125{4}[source]▶
"play" "this type of thing" "starting to think that"

Dude, that's the naked reality. You are contorting yourself to avoid facing it.