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bilekas ◴[] No.42738993[source]
Am I just getting more grumpy in my old age or is every new framework just complete bloat ?

I wanted to give it a try, but I need to install bun, a new js runtime, okay fine, why not. Javascript needs more runtimes after all.

Then I need to install `nuekit`.. globally.. Okay...

Now I need to run an obscure command 'nue; which I didn't know I installed. `nue create simple-blog`

Then it tells me to follow the tutorial docs, great. But I need to start writing YAML.. Losing patience now.

My relief comes when I see :

> Nue is not currently tested or developed under Windows, so use it at your own risk.

Well I guess as a Windows user I can't have a 'Standards First Web Framework'.

Think I'll stick to what actually works instead.

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ezfe ◴[] No.42741388[source]
I had you until the last line.

Windows causes so many problems for me in a full stack development role because people come in and have trouble installing things, etc. and nothing works properly.

I'm not surprised this app doesn't support Windows, I certainly wouldn't bother putting that time in myself. You can have a cross-env but everything else should just work or it's not my problem.

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WorldMaker ◴[] No.42742686[source]
Node, Deno, and Bun are all great on Windows and all work the same way on Windows they do anywhere else.

Python is tiny bit more challenging to install. .NET is lot less challenging for the most part but has a few Windows install "quirks" now due to the frozen version bundled with Windows. Both are generally great on Windows once properly installed.

Plenty of developers do full stack development on Windows. It's often extra work to break Windows development than to support it.

(Also yes, Ruby is terrible on Windows, Swift is getting better, try to use task runners that aren't (Ba)sh scripts.)

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1. ezfe ◴[] No.42751148[source]
Yeah, hopefully it works fine. But my point is that Windows is the outlier and if it's not working I'm not gonna put in the time to fix it.