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A standards-first web framework

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174 points tipiirai | 1 comments | 16 Jan 25 08:30 UTC | HN request time: 0.215s | source
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tipiirai ◴[16 Jan 25 08:30 UTC] No.42722858[source]▶
Author here: this is Nue's new, more natural direction. Our previous focus on design engineers and CSS design systems was accurate, but missed the most important point: the web platform itself has evolved to eliminate the need for most framework abstractions. What began as elegant HTML, CSS, and JavaScript has devolved into build systems demanding hundreds of dependencies just to render a page.

This is a long term, ambitious project to strip away these artificial layers and return web development to its core strengths. Instead of fighting web standards, we're taking them to their absolute peak.

Happy to hear your feedback.

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1. andrewmcwatters ◴[17 Jan 25 21:33 UTC] No.42743512[source]▶
> What began as elegant HTML, CSS, and JavaScript has devolved into build systems demanding hundreds of dependencies just to render a page.

Huh? `ls -l | grep '^d' | wc -l`

> 18

You need 18 dependencies to generate a page?

`touch index.html`

If you want to go back to elegant HTML, CSS, and JavaScript, it's right there. You don't need bun and whatever this is to use it.

The absolute peak of using web standards is to just open up either the either the W3C or WHATWG specifications. That's it.

> https://nuejs.org/vision/

> Closer to metal.

Come on man. Be serious for a second. Have you ever even taken a look at the WebKit or Chromium codebase? Whatever it is that you're doing here is so far removed from "the metal" that I doubt you have ever shipped anything that actually needs a compiler if you're writing stuff like this.