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Comment on 2015 mRNA paper suggests data re-used in different contexts

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159 points picture | 1 comments | 16 Jan 25 17:24 UTC | HN request time: 0.201s | source
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owlninja ◴[16 Jan 25 17:53 UTC] No.42728486[source]▶
I guess I'll bite - what am I looking at here?
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IshKebab ◴[16 Jan 25 17:56 UTC] No.42728535[source]▶
Faked scientific results.
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sergiotapia ◴[16 Jan 25 18:21 UTC] No.42728866[source]▶
what happens to people who do this? are they shunned forever from scientific endeavors? isn't this the ultimate betrayal of what a scientist is supposed to do?
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Palomides ◴[16 Jan 25 18:41 UTC] No.42729149[source]▶
if caught and it's unignorable, usually they say "oops, we made a minor unintentional mistake while preparing the data for publication, but the conclusion is still totally valid"

generally, no consequences

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1. mrguyorama ◴[17 Jan 25 21:09 UTC] No.42743257[source]▶
Horseshit. All of the following scientists were caught outright faking results and as a result were generally removed from science.

Jan Hendrick Schon (he was even stripped of his Phd, which is not possible in most jurisdictions) He made up over 200 papers about organic semiconductors

Victor Ninov who lied about creating like 4 different elements

Hwang Woo-suk who faked cloning humans and other mammals, lied about the completely unethical acquisition of human egg cells, and literally had the entire Korean government attempting to prevent him from being discredited, and was caught primarily because his papers were reusing pictures of cells. Hilariously, his lab successfully cloned a dog which was considered difficult at the time.

Pons and Fleischmann didn't do any actual fraud. They were merely startlingly incompetent, incurious, and arrogant. They still never did real research again.