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flashgordon ◴[] No.42732480[source]
I think this sounds exciting. As a backend eng (who prefers Htmx) and someone who totally struggles with css, reading your intro made me walk away feeling dumber than before. Again not expecting an ego boost or anything. Something that felt counter intuitive:

1. Lack of drawings hurt - I had no idea what zaha or rams meant. You had bold text which I thought were links but alas they were just bold text.

2. I actually appreciate math and still wasnt sure how I could use math in the new proposed framework (id kill for a constraint system that was similar to what iOS had).

3. +1 on the crazy level of complexity in today's frameworks (which is why I hate using nextjs etc) but perhaps some code samples (even if proof of concept would have helped) would have been helpful.

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bitpush ◴[] No.42732633[source]
It is 100% true that modern frontend javascript development is hard. You take your eye off the ball for 6 months, and you lose what's going on. I can understand why casual folks find it difficult to get started.

For instance, a year back everybody was using pnpm. But now you use pnpm thru corepack.

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I can understand why people yearn for simpler days, but the reality is frontend developement is super-duper nice, even with all the warts. Anyone who is romanticizing the "good old days of jQuery" is being non-serious or has not lived through the pains of that.

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You cant write a spotify.com or a amazon.com with jQuery and have 100s of engineers collaborate and maintain.

And neither can you with nuejs.

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1. Vampiero ◴[] No.42736349[source]
I guess it doesn't take much to entertain frontend devs, but I'd lose my shit if I had to relearn a new shape for the wheel every 6 months. A Sisyphean existence: one must imagine the webshit happy.

And consider that amazon.com was launched in '95, so yeah, you don't need the latest JS framework to build an empire.

The truth is that 90% of tech is about chasing trends that the people who succeeded have set. It's not because the core ideas have merit or are successful. It's because Facebook did it, so we have to do it too (even though we operate at 1/10000th of the scale). No further reasoning needed, everything else is driven by the hype.

Don't believe me? Just look at the state of LLMs. They're solutions looking for problems and the entire world is eager to waste billions in the process of figuring out that LLMs are not good at factual reasoning.