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174 points tipiirai | 8 comments | 16 Jan 25 08:30 UTC | HN request time: 2.124s | source | bottom
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bitpush ◴[16 Jan 25 23:50 UTC] No.42732454[source]▶
Lots of big claims, including bashing React and this seems to be a framework to build static sites, like blog posts with little to no reactivity?

Also, kinda silly to "appeal to authority" by invoking Dieter Rams. I understand that the author was inspired by Rams work, but this is akin to saying "My new framework is Iron Maiden" because I happen to really like maiden.

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1. davedx ◴[17 Jan 25 09:21 UTC] No.42735619[source]▶
Bashing react today is like bashing Java in ~2010.

There are some valid criticisms of react but a lot of them want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, much like with many other mature technologies.

I celebrate people who can produce something innovative in the web development world, but at least produce something before making these grand claims while bashing what came before. Those abstractions are there for good reasons!

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2. actionfromafar ◴[17 Jan 25 12:57 UTC] No.42737038[source]▶
More like bashing Enterprise Java Beans?
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3. palmfacehn ◴[17 Jan 25 13:28 UTC] No.42737282[source]▶
The only similarity is that it is/was popular to bash both. The reasons for bashing and utility of each are vastly different.
4. palmfacehn ◴[17 Jan 25 13:28 UTC] No.42737288[source]▶
Maybe the Spring ecosystem.
5. robertoandred ◴[17 Jan 25 17:20 UTC] No.42740682[source]▶
And a lot of that bashing comes from people who don't understand React or the ecosystem it's part of.
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6. recursive ◴[17 Jan 25 18:26 UTC] No.42741611[source]▶
Personally, I only started bashing it in earnest after reading most of its source code.
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7. mind-blight ◴[17 Jan 25 19:15 UTC] No.42742137[source]▶
That feels more like bashing Redux or one of the state management libraries. That's where I've seen a lot of complexity sneak in.
8. 8n4vidtmkvmk ◴[18 Jan 25 17:37 UTC] No.42749916{3}[source]▶
Why? Because the code quality is bad? Or there's just so much code?

I submitted one PR to React like 10 years ago. The maintainers were quite pleasant to work with and it wasn't too hard to figure out what I needed to do.