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649 points chinathrow | 2 comments | 16 Jan 25 21:25 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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terramex ◴[16 Jan 25 23:04 UTC] No.42732041[source]▶
Looks like second stage broke up over Caribbean, videos of the debris (as seen from ground):

https://x.com/deankolson87/status/1880026759133032662?t=HdHF...

https://x.com/realcamtem/status/1880026604472266800

https://x.com/adavenport354/status/1880026262254809115

Moment of the breakup:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DE52_hVSeQz/

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olex ◴[16 Jan 25 23:19 UTC] No.42732199[source]▶
Inadvertently perfect timing for this footage. Glowing and backlit by the setting sun, against clear and already darkening evening sky... couldn't plan the shot any better if you tried.

Let's hope no debris came down on anyone or anything apart from open water.

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andrewinardeer ◴[17 Jan 25 00:06 UTC] No.42732563[source]▶
I take it if SpaceX debris hit and destroyed a boat the owner can claim damages from SpaceX?

Does international space law allow for this?

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ceejayoz ◴[17 Jan 25 01:02 UTC] No.42732900[source]▶
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Liability_Convention

Only used once, when the Soviets dropped a nuclear reactor on Canada.

> States (countries) bear international responsibility for all space objects that are launched within their territory. This means that regardless of who launches the space object, if it was launched from State A's territory, or from State A's facility, or if State A caused the launch to happen, then State A is fully liable for damages that result from that space object.

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krick ◴[17 Jan 25 01:46 UTC] No.42733181{3}[source]▶
I feel like it should be updated. When it was written it wasn't like every Musk could launch high-orbit rockets on sundays. Only actual states did.
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ceejayoz ◴[17 Jan 25 01:48 UTC] No.42733191{4}[source]▶
States can set whatever rules they like internally. The US can make SpaceX pay them back if they want.
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dylan604[dead post] ◴[17 Jan 25 02:26 UTC] No.42733422{5}[source]▶
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1. dragonwriter ◴[17 Jan 25 02:33 UTC] No.42733483{6}[source]▶
The President has very little case-by-case authority over civil liability between private parties.

I suppose Trump could advocate that Congress pass a new liability regime more favorable to SpaceX speciically or private launchers generally, though.

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2. dylan604 ◴[17 Jan 25 02:36 UTC] No.42733499[source]▶
Time and time again, we have seen GOP congress critters kowtow to Trump even before he won the election. You think any of them are going to suddenly grow a backbone and stand up to him now? You think if Musk picks up the phone and starts "asking" people they will push back?