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1603 points ezekg | 1 comments | 16 Jan 25 14:17 UTC | HN request time: 0.213s | source
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focusedone ◴[16 Jan 25 15:16 UTC] No.42726381[source]▶
Dear goodness will any other companies trying to sell to the company I work at please adopt this strategy. Please explain clearly what your product does, how you handle security, and what the enterprise license costs on the homepage.

Please do not harass us with calls and perpetual emails asking to schedule calls. If a call is what it takes to answer basic security and pricing questions, I loathe your company name before we've spoken and am very interested in doing business with anyone who *does* post that stuff online.

I do not understand why that's difficult, but it must be.

I wish I could use what this guy is selling.

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ikanreed ◴[16 Jan 25 16:33 UTC] No.42727520[source]▶
A lot of companies don't actually sell a product that does anything useful, though. They sell an idea that sounds useful to management, and obscuring the truth earns more money.
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snacksmcgee ◴[16 Jan 25 17:09 UTC] No.42727966[source]▶
A crucial point that is lost on this venture capital-funded forum: scummy garbage makes money. Taking sales people out for steak and whiskey makes money. Lying makes money. (That last point is especially funny considering how startups lie, too, like having a landing page and no product but collecting emails like you do.)

The economy is built on grifting, at this point, and every time, people here are shocked, SHOCKED that that is the case.

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kjs3 ◴[16 Jan 25 17:56 UTC] No.42728540[source]▶
A crucial point that is lost on this venture capital-funded forum: scummy garbage makes money.

I don't think you quite understand how VC works.

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1. TeMPOraL ◴[16 Jan 25 22:29 UTC] No.42731734[source]▶
Let me explain it to them, then: it's not simply that "scummy garbage makes money". It's that scummy but shiny garbage is given away for free, which makes the company look great to potential buyers - typically large corporations or the public (via IPO) - which allows the company to be sold for stupid amounts of money before the buyer realizes they bought a garbage factory, and this is what makes investors money.

People who got the free shiny scummy garbage? They don't matter, their only role is to grow a counter on financial reports, and to serve as a backup plan - because when the potential buyers realize too soon what they were about to buy, the people holding the previously free garbage can be squeezed for some money to hopefully make the investors whole.