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1603 points ezekg | 2 comments | 16 Jan 25 14:17 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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focusedone ◴[16 Jan 25 15:16 UTC] No.42726381[source]▶
Dear goodness will any other companies trying to sell to the company I work at please adopt this strategy. Please explain clearly what your product does, how you handle security, and what the enterprise license costs on the homepage.

Please do not harass us with calls and perpetual emails asking to schedule calls. If a call is what it takes to answer basic security and pricing questions, I loathe your company name before we've spoken and am very interested in doing business with anyone who *does* post that stuff online.

I do not understand why that's difficult, but it must be.

I wish I could use what this guy is selling.

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ikanreed ◴[16 Jan 25 16:33 UTC] No.42727520[source]▶
A lot of companies don't actually sell a product that does anything useful, though. They sell an idea that sounds useful to management, and obscuring the truth earns more money.
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snacksmcgee ◴[16 Jan 25 17:09 UTC] No.42727966[source]▶
A crucial point that is lost on this venture capital-funded forum: scummy garbage makes money. Taking sales people out for steak and whiskey makes money. Lying makes money. (That last point is especially funny considering how startups lie, too, like having a landing page and no product but collecting emails like you do.)

The economy is built on grifting, at this point, and every time, people here are shocked, SHOCKED that that is the case.

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spenczar5 ◴[16 Jan 25 17:26 UTC] No.42728194[source]▶
> The economy is built on grifting, at this point

I agreed until here. Obviously, lying isn't the only way to make money. I make furniture and fix windows in old houses for a living. Am I grifting?

When you stretch into hyperbole, you lose the ability to convince people in the middle.

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marxisttemp ◴[16 Jan 25 17:32 UTC] No.42728250[source]▶
What percentage of the GDP is furniture making and window fixing? Yours is a noble profession, and like most noble professions is barely a blip in the grand Machiavellian scheme of capitalism
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1. kortilla ◴[16 Jan 25 17:56 UTC] No.42728525[source]▶
People building physical things makes up far more of the GDP than VC-backed startups producing vaporware
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2. marxisttemp ◴[16 Jan 25 18:11 UTC] No.42728740[source]▶
If you mean manufacturing vs tech sector, then yes; however much of manufacturing has become automated. I was referring to actual craftsmen crafting things. Point being, when people talk bad about capitalism, they’re not talking about artisans or craftspeople or other tradespeople plying their trade, they are referring to the system by which capital is accrued and hoarded by the owner class