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rmccue ◴[] No.42669910[source]
This isn’t unexpected; I’ve been deactivated on Slack since very early in this dispute, and later banned from the issue tracker as well. I’ve been contributing for 20 years to the project, am a committer, and built several large parts of WordPress including the REST API.

Matt is banning anyone who speaks out at all, even when they agree with points he’s made. A large group of contributors felt they had to make an anonymous statement from fear of the same retribution I suffered: https://www.therepository.email/core-contributors-voice-conc...

(I am a less active direct contributor these days, so I’m still able to contribute even while blocked - but many people’s livelihoods depend on it, as sponsored contributors.)

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pathartl ◴[] No.42671273[source]
Been following your posts since the beginning of this. We met a while ago after a Milwaukee WordCamp and I remember talking about API v2 and how WP was going to be brought into the modern era.

Honestly, the project just feels stagnant to me. I get wanting to support plugins/the community for as long as possible, but I fear not having a sensible web framework has done nothing but given credence to the common criticism that WP shouldn't be taken seriously.

From my perspective as an owner of a small open source project, Matt's comments have been petty and vindictive. I personally probably will never touch the platform again. There's too many other frameworks out there, whether you want something similar like Statamic, Grav, Drupal.. or if you want to build with an actual app framework with Laravel, ASP.NET Core, etc.

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pclmulqdq ◴[] No.42671574[source]
Honestly, my first response to this whole fiasco was "people still use WordPress?" It turns out to still be very popular despite HTML infrastructure subsuming many features that WordPress used to offer (on one side) and competing platforms being just better for things like blogging/writing.
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1. everforward ◴[] No.42683942[source]
> competing platforms being just better for things like blogging/writing.

The "just" is your explanation there. Most businesses want a blog, but also a half dozen other things. An event calendar, a mailing list, contact forms, an online store, etc, etc.

WordPress is kind of a mess technically, but you'd probably be surprised at some of the name-brand sites that use it. I want to say the NYT was using it at some point. It's the epitome of "don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough". You could build a better site by duct taping together a dozen services or open source products, but WordPress is generally good enough.