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thomas-st ◴[] No.42622492[source]
I have a power bank that is PD capable, but I cannot charge it from my MacBook even if the MacBook is plugged in to power. I get around it by using a USB-C/A dongle and corresponding USB-C/A cable. Presumably this "downgrades" the connection and since the MacBook doesn't support traditional USB charging it has to charge the power bank. Does USB-C not have a way to indicate that a potential power source is a battery so that the MacBook can charge it if it's plugged in to power, and reverse roles otherwise? Is this a fault how the power bank or macOS implements power negotiation, or is this scenario simply unaddressed in USB-C?

Funny enough, if I plug the USB-C/A dongle on the end of the power bank and the cable into the MacBook, it also won't charge.

I also have a Philips One toothbrush with a USB-C charging input. Similarly, I can't charge it with a USB-C cable directly from my MacBook but have to use A in between (I unsuccessfully tried using either a thinner "lower speed" or a thicker "higher speed" USB-C cable). I'm assuming the toothbrush doesn't support PD, so then why can't it fall back to traditional charging with a C-to-C cable?

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noroot ◴[] No.42623837[source]
I have the same issue, but the other way around. I cannot charge my laptop (framework 13, amd) from my power bank. Which sometimes would be super useful.

I don't know nor understand why it doesn't work and if it's a bug in the power bank or the laptop

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1. nfriedly ◴[] No.42624422[source]
I have a Framework 13 and I've found that it's fairly finicky about what power sources it will accept. Anything 60W and higher seems to mostly work, but lower wattage chargers are much more dicey.

The one trick I've heard works (but haven't tried) is to "kick start" it by connecting two chargers, one with higher wattage and one with lower, then giving it a minute to begin charging, then disconnecting the higher-powered one. Apparently that's enough to get it past the initial issue and then it will continue charging (more slowly) from the lower wattage charger.

There was a firmware update a while back that was supposed to improve things, but it didn't change the behavior with my 27W charger.

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2. sockbot ◴[] No.42629426[source]
As another data point, the firmware update fixed everything for me and I have no problems charging my Framework 13 from my 18w Pixel charger or 20w iPad charger.
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3. nfriedly ◴[] No.42629682[source]
You know what, I went back and checked it and apparently it does work now. Not sure why I thought otherwise.

It's too late to edit my original post :(