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Karupan ◴[] No.42619320[source]
I feel this is bigger than the 5x series GPUs. Given the craze around AI/LLMs, this can also potentially eat into Apple’s slice of the enthusiast AI dev segment once the M4 Max/Ultra Mac minis are released. I sure wished I held some Nvidia stocks, they seem to be doing everything right in the last few years!
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dagmx ◴[] No.42619339[source]
I think the enthusiast side of things is a negligible part of the market.

That said, enthusiasts do help drive a lot of the improvements to the tech stack so if they start using this, it’ll entrench NVIDIA even more.

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qwertox ◴[] No.42619479[source]
You could have said the same about gamers buying expensive hardware in the 00's. It's what made Nvidia big.
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Cumpiler69 ◴[] No.42620002[source]
There's a lot more gamers than people wanting to play with LLms at home.
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anonylizard ◴[] No.42620074[source]
There's a titanic market with people wanting some uncensored local LLM/image/video generation model. This market extremely overlaps with gamers today, but will grow exponentially every year.
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1. otabdeveloper4 ◴[] No.42621277[source]
> There's a titanic market with people wanting some uncensored local LLM/image/video generation model.

No. There's already too much porn on the internet, and AI porn is cringe and will get old very fast.

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2. ceejayoz ◴[] No.42622387[source]
AI porn is currently cringe, just like Eliza for conversations was cringe.

The cutting edge will advance, and convincing bespoke porn of people's crushes/coworkers/bosses/enemies/toddlers will become a thing. With all the mayhem that results.

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3. JohnBooty ◴[] No.42622503[source]
I think there are a lot of non-porn uses. I see a lot of YouTube thumbnails that seem AI generated, but feature copyrighted stuff.

(example: a thumbnail for a YT video about a video game, featuring AI-generated art based on that game. because copyright reasons, in my very limited experience Dall-E won't let you do that)

I agree that AI porn doesn't seem a real market driver. With 8 billion people on Earth I know it has its fans I guess, but people barely pay for porn in the first place so I reallllly dunno how many people are paying for AI porn either directly or indirectly.

It's unclear to me if AI generated video will ever really cross the "uncanny valley." Of course, people betting against AI have lost those bets again and again but I don't know.

4. Filligree ◴[] No.42623432[source]
> No. There's already too much porn on the internet, and AI porn is cringe and will get old very fast.

I needed an uncensored model in order to, guess what, make an AI draw my niece snowboarding down a waterfall. All the online services refuse on basis that the picture contains -- oh horrors -- a child.

"Uncensored" absolutely does not imply NSFW.

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5. Paradigma11 ◴[] No.42623850[source]
I think scams will create a far more demand. Spear Phishing targets by creating persistent elaborate online environments is going to be big.
6. otabdeveloper4 ◴[] No.42623952[source]
Yeah, and there's that story about "private window" mode in browsers because you were shopping for birthday gifts that one time. You know what I mean though.
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7. otabdeveloper4 ◴[] No.42624219[source]
It will always be cringe due to how so-called "AI" works. Since it's fundamentally just log-likelihood optimization under the hood, it will always be a statistically most average image. Which means it will always have that characteristic "plastic" and overdone look.
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8. Filligree ◴[] No.42624746{3}[source]
I really don't. Censored models are so censored they're practically useless for anything but landscapes. Half of them refuse to put humans in the pictures at all.
9. ceejayoz ◴[] No.42626174{3}[source]
The current state of the art in AI image generation was unimaginable a few years back. The idea that it'll stay as-is for the next century seems... silly.
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10. otabdeveloper4 ◴[] No.42632388{4}[source]
If you're talking about some sort of non-existent sci-fi future "AI" that isn't just log-likelihood optimization, then most likely such a fantastical thing wouldn't be using NVidia's GPU with CUDA.

This hardware is only good for current-generation "AI".