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imoreno ◴[] No.42599386[source]
I agree with most of this. If every website followed these, the web would be heaven (again)...

But why this one?

>I don't force you to use SSL/TLS to connect here. Use it if you want, but if you can't, hey, that's fine, too.

What is wrong with redirecting 80 to 443 in today's world?

Security wise, I know that something innocuous like a personal blog is not very sensitive, so encrypting that traffic is not that important. But as a matter of security policy, why not just encrypt everything? Once upon a time you might have cared about the extra CPU load from TLS, but nowadays it seems trivial. Encrypting everything arguably helps protect the secure stuff too, as it widens the attacker's search space.

These days, browser are moving towards treating HTTP as a bug and throw up annoying propaganda warnings about it. Just redirecting seems like the less annoying option.

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throwaway58670 ◴[] No.42601148[source]
Some old-enough browsers don't support SSL. At all.

Also, something I often see non-technical people fall victim to is that if your clock is off, the entirety of the secure web is inaccessible to you. Why should a blog (as opposed to say online banking) break for this reason?

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Gud ◴[] No.42602791[source]
How old are these browsers and why should I let them online? Must be decades old.
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wpm ◴[] No.42608078[source]
> Must be decades old.

So? If they still power on and are capable of talking HTTP over a network, and you don't require the transfer of data that needs to be secured, why shouldn't you "let" them online?

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1. fragmede ◴[] No.42608103{3}[source]
I don't know about you, but I'd rather my ancient laptop not end up as part of a botnet simply because I visited the wrong website with it.