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kingkilr ◴[] No.42576212[source]
I would strongly implore people not to follow the example this post suggests, and write code that relies on this monotonicity.

The reason for this is simple: the documentation doesn't promise this property. Moreover, even if it did, the RFC for UUIDv7 doesn't promise this property. If you decide to depend on it, you're setting yourself up for a bad time when PostgreSQL decides to change their implementation strategy, or you move to a different database.

Further, the stated motivations for this, to slightly simplify testing code, are massively under-motivating. Saving a single line of code can hardly be said to be worth it, but even if it were, this is a problem far better solved by simply writing a function that will both generate the objects and sort them.

As a profession, I strongly feel we need to do a better job orienting ourselves to the reality that our code has a tendency to live for a long time, and we need to optimize not for "how quickly can I type it", but "what will this code cost over its lifetime".

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deadbabe ◴[] No.42576998[source]
Most code does not live for a long time. Similar to how consumer products are built for planned obsolescence, code is also built with a specific lifespan in mind.

If you spend time making code bulletproof so it can run for like 100 years, you will have wasted a lot of effort for nothing when someone comes along and wipes it clean and replaces it with new code in 2 years. Requirements change, code changes, it’s the nature of business.

Remember any fool can build a bridge that stands, it takes an engineer to make a bridge that barely stands.

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1. Pxtl ◴[] No.42577137[source]
Uh, more people work on 20-year-old codebases than you'd think.
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2. 9dev ◴[] No.42578908[source]
And yet these people are dwarved by the number of developers crunching out generic line of business CRUD apps every day.