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markerz ◴[] No.42551173[source]
One of my websites was absolutely destroyed by Meta's AI bot: Meta-ExternalAgent https://developers.facebook.com/docs/sharing/webmasters/web-...

It seems a bit naive for some reason and doesn't do performance back-off the way I would expect from Google Bot. It just kept repeatedly requesting more and more until my server crashed, then it would back off for a minute and then request more again.

My solution was to add a Cloudflare rule to block requests from their User-Agent. I also added more nofollow rules to links and a robots.txt but those are just suggestions and some bots seem to ignore them.

Cloudflare also has a feature to block known AI bots and even suspected AI bots: https://blog.cloudflare.com/declaring-your-aindependence-blo... As much as I dislike Cloudflare centralization, this was a super convenient feature.

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MetaWhirledPeas ◴[] No.42551742[source]
> Cloudflare also has a feature to block known AI bots and even suspected AI bots

In addition to other crushing internet risks, add wrongly blacklisted as a bot to the list.

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kmeisthax ◴[] No.42562510[source]
This is already a thing for basically all of the second[0] and third worlds. A non-trivial amount of Cloudflare's security value is plausible algorithmic discrimination and collective punishment as a service.

[0] Previously Soviet-aligned countries; i.e. Russia and eastern Europe.

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shark_laser ◴[] No.42563762[source]
Yep. Same for most of Asia too.

Cloudflare's filters are basically straight up racist.

I have stopped using so many sites due to their use of Cloudflare.

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brianwawok ◴[] No.42570553[source]
If 90% of your problem users come from 1-2 countries, seems pretty sensible to block that country. I know I have 0 paying users in those countries, so why deal with it? Let them go fight it out doing bot wars in local sites
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lazide ◴[] No.42573043[source]
Keep in mind, this is literally why stereotypes and racism exists. It’s the exact same process/reasoning.
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1. qeternity ◴[] No.42575893[source]
No, racism would be “I won’t deal with customers of Chinese ethnicity irrespective of their country of operation”.

Blocking Chinese (or whatever) IPs because they are responsible for a huge amount of malicious behavior is not racist.

Frankly I don’t care what the race of the Chinese IP threat actor is.

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2. lazide ◴[] No.42576507[source]
You really might want to re-read my comment.