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markerz ◴[] No.42551173[source]
One of my websites was absolutely destroyed by Meta's AI bot: Meta-ExternalAgent https://developers.facebook.com/docs/sharing/webmasters/web-...

It seems a bit naive for some reason and doesn't do performance back-off the way I would expect from Google Bot. It just kept repeatedly requesting more and more until my server crashed, then it would back off for a minute and then request more again.

My solution was to add a Cloudflare rule to block requests from their User-Agent. I also added more nofollow rules to links and a robots.txt but those are just suggestions and some bots seem to ignore them.

Cloudflare also has a feature to block known AI bots and even suspected AI bots: https://blog.cloudflare.com/declaring-your-aindependence-blo... As much as I dislike Cloudflare centralization, this was a super convenient feature.

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MetaWhirledPeas ◴[] No.42551742[source]
> Cloudflare also has a feature to block known AI bots and even suspected AI bots

In addition to other crushing internet risks, add wrongly blacklisted as a bot to the list.

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kmeisthax ◴[] No.42562510[source]
This is already a thing for basically all of the second[0] and third worlds. A non-trivial amount of Cloudflare's security value is plausible algorithmic discrimination and collective punishment as a service.

[0] Previously Soviet-aligned countries; i.e. Russia and eastern Europe.

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ls612 ◴[] No.42562599[source]
People hate collective punishment because it works so well.
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panic ◴[] No.42563310[source]
Works how? Are these blocks leading to progress toward solving any of the underlying issues?
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victorbjorklund ◴[] No.42573501[source]
The underlying issue is that countries like russia support abuse like this. So by blocking them perhaps the people there will demand that their govt stops supporting crimes and absuse so that they can be allowed back into the internet.

(In the case of russians though i guess they will never change)

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1. petre ◴[] No.42574222[source]
> people there will demand that their govt stops supporting crimes and absuse so that they can be allowed back into the internet

Sure. It doesn't work that way, not in Russia or China. First they have to revert back to 1999 when Putin took over. Then they have to extradite criminals and crack down on cybercrime. Then maybe they could be allowed back onto the open Internet.

In my country one would be exradited to the US in no time. In fact the USSS came over for a guy who had been laundering money through BTC from a nearby office. Not a month passed and he got extradited to the US, never to be heard from again.