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jaco6 ◴[] No.42474438[source]
Two things:

Even the “cool kids” are staying inside and using their phones all day. Cool used to mean you were at the party, now it just means you have a high snapchat score.

Other thing is genuine fear of accidental fentanyl consumption. They’re making fake Xans with fentanyl in them, fentanyl is being found in coke powder. Plenty of people aren’t taking the risk with street drugs anymore. Jelly Roll said so in an interview, he’s a big recreational drug user but doesn’t trust the supply anymore. Good job dealers!

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1. cyberpunk ◴[] No.42478034[source]
Why would anyone put fent in cocaine? It’s more expensive and has the opposite effect.

Drug selling is all about repeat customers I don’t really believe this happens apart from accidents.

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2. kstrauser ◴[] No.42478273[source]
I wondered about that too. The most likely answer is that a lot of dealers aren't meticulous about cleaning work surfaces between batches.
3. otherme123 ◴[] No.42478283[source]
Search "speedball drug", this has been done for decades.
4. swores ◴[] No.42478446[source]
TL;DR: If fentanyl could be evenly dispersed in cocaine at a tiny percentage of the weight, there’s a theoretical reason for a dealer to add it. However, it’s likely rare and more often accidental.

I agree with kstrauser—most cases of fentanyl in cocaine are likely due to contamination from preparing multiple drugs in the same space. Accidental fentanyl poisonings usually involve people using other downers, like heroin or counterfeit benzos, rather than cocaine.

That said, there’s a theoretical motive for intentionally adding fentanyl to cocaine. While cocaine is highly mentally addictive, it doesn’t cause the same physical dependence as opiates. A low, undetectable dose of fentanyl could enhance the high and subtly increase physical dependence, potentially leading to more frequent use. It’s an unethical but plausible strategy for some dealers.

Regarding cost, fentanyl is cheaper than it might seem. While per-gram prices for cocaine and fentanyl are similar, fentanyl’s potency makes it far more economical in effective doses. A gram of fentanyl can be diluted across hundreds of grams of cocaine, making it cost-effective for someone aiming to enhance or manipulate their product.

The real challenges are: 1. Mixing: Distributing fentanyl evenly in cocaine is extremely difficult without specialized equipment. Uneven mixing could make some doses dangerously potent. 2. User safety: Even tiny, “safe” doses can become deadly when combined with alcohol, benzos, or other opiates, all of which are common among cocaine users.

In short, the risk and complexity of mixing fentanyl properly likely outweigh the benefits for most dealers. But that doesn’t rule out less ethical or less cautious individuals attempting it.

(I first wrote a too-lengthy reply of ~800 words as I'm too sleepy to write well atm, so I got ChatGPT to condense it which got rid of 70% - https://pastebin.com/raw/khm2VFxN )

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5. psyclobe ◴[] No.42478592[source]
I don't know but a very close friend's x-wife died that way, coke laced with fent.
6. oseityphelysiol ◴[] No.42478733[source]
Interesting how I could instantly tell that this was written by AI. CharGPT has a very distinguishable style and reasoning.
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7. swores ◴[] No.42478791{3}[source]
That's why I included a pastebin link of my original reply that I asked it to summarise - I hate when people comment "here's what ChatGPT thinks on this subject", but hoped people wouldn't mind a lazily-shortened version of my own writing!
8. t-3 ◴[] No.42481806[source]
> It’s more expensive and has the opposite effect.

Nonsense, fentanyl is waaay cheaper than coke or heroin or any other street drug, like nearly an order of magnitude more per dollar when buying dealer-level quantities. The depressant/stimulant effect stuff is somewhat true, but different people are effected differently by different drugs, most people aren't drug connoisseurs, and a large part of the high is psychosomatic, so experienced and knowledgeable people might have some idea of the purity but it won't really stop others from buying.

9. sneak ◴[] No.42482235[source]
It’s accidental cross-contamination. The amount of fentanyl that can kill you is literally invisible.