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Grayjay Desktop App

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510 points pierrelf | 1 comments | 20 Dec 24 17:33 UTC | HN request time: 0.21s | source
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duxup ◴[20 Dec 24 18:22 UTC] No.42473413[source]▶
This feels like a central hub for media you like?

I would assume these privacy claims would also include a ToS violation for the given platform?

And then of course the user has given Grayjay a lot of info so privacy?

Are they scraping the actual content too or just accessing it in some different way?

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Joe_Cool ◴[20 Dec 24 18:42 UTC] No.42473620[source]▶
It doesn't use any API (at least the YouTube plugin). So they are (according to their lawyers) not bound to any TOS. All it does is open the page (like a browser) and grab it and only show stuff to the user that's "relevant".

You can check it yourself, while it is not "open-source" or "free" in the usual sense its source is available.

More details from Rossmann himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqTYg6vnQvw

edit: TOS not API

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jazzyjackson ◴[20 Dec 24 23:36 UTC] No.42476229[source]▶
Grayjay may not be bound to TOS but users of Grayjay are still accessing YouTube services in a way YouTube would prefer they didn't. OTOH videos are available without having to log in or having an account at all so I don't know if there's any implicit agreement between someone accessing a URL and the service provider.
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1. Joe_Cool ◴[21 Dec 24 01:51 UTC] No.42476883[source]▶
True. And they might close your account if you login.

How I display, download or request data without an account and which browser or app I use to do it is still my choice. I'd guess if they could do anything about it, they would have half a year ago. The only way would be to DRM/widevine all videos and apparently they aren't ready for that yet. If they block my IP I'll just get a new one.

I wouldn't even be thinking about using a 3rd party app or blocking the ads if their service was reasonable. No way I will endure that, if they block it I'll just watch something else.