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    dools ◴[] No.42468039[source]
    Isn't this just like how supermarkets have their "house brands" that compete with name brands? If your consumption of music amounts to "whatever Spotify tells me to listen to" then chances are you were the type of person who used to just have the radio on for background noise anyway.

    EDIT: If you think about this "scandal" in reverse, that is that Spotify was started as a background, inert restaurant playlist app that paid session musicians to record 50 songs a day for lo-fi chill ambient jazz playlists, and later tried to expand their reach by allowing musicians to upload their songs, it wouldn't be a scandal at all.

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    1. pests ◴[] No.42468128[source]
    Its not in reverse though.

    If a upscale steak restaurant is known for using quality meats and then they decide to include something like Beyond Meat but make it hard to tell that's what you're ordering.

    Expectations were set.

    Personally I have no issue with it.

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    2. dools ◴[] No.42468399[source]
    > If a upscale steak restaurant is known for using quality meats and then they decide to include something like Beyond Meat but make it hard to tell that's what you're ordering.

    That sounds like an analogy worth belabouring!!

    I think this is more like if you had an upscale steak restaurant and then they opened up a series of food trucks that used the same branding but sold sausages instead.

    3. big-green-man ◴[] No.42468520[source]
    If you walk into a steakhouse and order the porterhouse and you get taco bell Beefy™ meat, that's one thing. If you pay the restaurant a monthly retainer to feed you steak whenever you feel like wandering in and you get such treatment, you weren't really ripped off.

    Someone tells Spotify "I want to listen to the latest Lil yachty album" and it plays, expectations were met. Someone says "play whatever I just need background noise", expectations were also met. You can't ask for elevator music and be upset that that's what you get. The fact that you can still pay a flat monthly rate and get access to almost any music you'd want to hear, that's like still getting the porterhouse every day for a monthly fee. That's amazing and fantastic. Don't expect it to last much longer. And don't ask for the soup of the day if you want something fresh.

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    4. foota ◴[] No.42468755[source]
    I don't know how I feel about this, but the people that are upset about this seem to be upset for musicians. Which, I don't know how I feel. It feels like the outsourcing of the music industry.
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    5. mort96 ◴[] No.42469516[source]
    Beyond Meat is a weird analogy here. It's relatively expensive, and having a Beoynd Meat alternative to steaks would open up new markets (vegans, vegetarians, pescatarians, groups of people who include vegans and vegetarians and pescatarians) so it's something restaurants tend to feature prominently on their menues as a vegan or vegetarian alternative.

    A better alternative would be a steak restaurant known for using quality meats and then they decide to include cheap meat to reduce cost, and not make it clear that that's what you're ordering.

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    6. Yeul ◴[] No.42470154{3}[source]
    Spotify sends users a notification when their favourite artist has a concert. I think that's a nice gesture.

    Nowadays you make money with live gigs not snorting coke in a studio making concept albums. And Spotify saved the industry from Napster- yes I still remember.

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    7. philistine ◴[] No.42470927{4}[source]
    You don't really remember. Spotify arrived in the US only in 2011. The iTunes Store saved the industry from Napster.
    8. xandrius ◴[] No.42470946[source]
    In that specific scenario, if the customers can't tell, I'd say the beyond meat option is better: still gives you the experience, the proteins, less cruelty and better for the environment. Win win to me.

    Unlike here the topic in question, I'd assume cows too would prefer you having a beyond meat instead of them. But I'm just projecting, I'm not actually sure about that.

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    9. schnable ◴[] No.42472681[source]
    I'll play along. It's like ordering a beer flight at a bar and they start out with craft beers and 3-4 beers in they start slipping in Natty Lights and Busches.
    10. big-green-man ◴[] No.42474293{3}[source]
    I mean, do you feel sad for photographers, painters, digital artists that every stock photo used on every website in the world comes from a stock photo website and wasn't hand made by an artisan? Is it some slight against Duke Ellington that he wasn't selected to write and record the hold music you hear when you call your doctors office? Feel bad for musicians why? They still get their royalties when someone plays their song. It's just they're not getting selected by an algorithm for random background music as often. How is that some wrongdoing against them?
    11. christina97 ◴[] No.42478584[source]
    Something something cruelty free music..?
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    12. defrost ◴[] No.42478610{3}[source]
    The only thing worse is people who are judgemental: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqX2aqXbwB0
    13. gregw2 ◴[] No.42478611[source]
    I've had this... The Longhorn Steakhouse "kids menu" steak (not cheap) given to my kids was actually inedible.