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danpalmer ◴[] No.42285229[source]
This is a bad look. I expected the result would be Chrome and Firefox dropping trust for this CA, but they already don't trust this CA. Arguably, Microsoft/Windows trusting a CA that the other big players choose not to trust is an even worse look for Microsoft.
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justinclift ◴[] No.42286897[source]
> an even worse look for Microsoft.

Microsoft have a terrible reputation for security, which they've earned through doing stuff like this.

It's not likely to get any better any time soon either, as their trajectory is still pointed downwards.

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danpalmer ◴[] No.42287058[source]
I don’t know enough to comment on that reputation, but this surprises me. They’re known for being great at serving and selling to the enterprise, frequently at the expense of end users, and big enterprises/govts care a lot about security usually. Even if much of that caring is box ticking rather than actually looking into the security (hello ISO27001), you’d expect it to result in generally a security conscious culture.
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1. justinclift ◴[] No.42287457{3}[source]
> but this surprises me

Unfortunately, it's true. People used to relying on Microsoft understandably don't want it to be so, so they're in for a rough time trying to figure out actually workable alternatives. :(

This has been an ongoing problem for years, and every time some new problem is found Microsoft just trots out the PR promises that they'll do better. Without then doing any better.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/10/how-a... (2022)

https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/08/microsoft-cloud-sec... (2023)

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/04/micro... (2024)

For the US government's official perspective on Microsoft's security competence, there's the federal Cyber Safety Review Board report released in April this year:

https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/2024-04/CSRB_Review... (2024)

  "Throughout this review, the board identified a series of
  Microsoft operational and strategic decisions that collectively
  points to a corporate culture that deprioritized both enterprise
  security investments and rigorous risk management," the report
  reads.
And so on.

Note that the problems didn't start in 2022, that's just the earliest I could be bothered looking with minimal effort. ;)