The initial PH was more like the SHOW HN, turned into a website, filled with people who are geuninly buidlding things and showing things.
Then marketers came, and the whole thing became a place where people just game, where people that I were preparing for weeks for PH launch, sending reminders for people to vote and try to get to the top. It became a place where people wanted to sell you something rather than people who share what they build.
Looking at this website, I feel like it's already a place where it's more about selling, and not a PH alternative. Black Friday deals, promoted items, it may not be a place of gamification, but still it's more about selling.
I would love to se a place where there is old PH. But I guess it will forever be Show HN