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California's most neglected group of students: the gifted ones

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412 points tafda | 3 comments | 26 Nov 24 16:53 UTC | HN request time: 0.015s | source
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Eumenes ◴[26 Nov 24 21:43 UTC] No.42250383[source]▶
In addition to many wise things stated, such as school choice and accepting some kids aren't as smart as others, teachers unions (and any public worker union, esp police) need to be abolished asap.
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teachrdan ◴[26 Nov 24 23:25 UTC] No.42251271[source]▶
Massachusetts is the state rated #1 in pre-K to 12 education, and they have about 100% of teachers in unions. This seems to destroy your argument that teachers unions need to be "abolished" in the name of helping students.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/massachusetts

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Eumenes ◴[27 Nov 24 14:34 UTC] No.42256399[source]▶
Yeah sorry I don't care about some click bait US News list on "best states". Also, the methodology is based on test scores which I could care less about. Being good at the SATs and ACT just mean you have rich parents that can steamroll your tutoring, which tracks with high cost of living places like Mass.
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1. teachrdan ◴[27 Nov 24 16:23 UTC] No.42257242[source]▶
You are literally choosing to dismiss data that destroys your argument while providing none which supports it. Your opposition to teachers unions is clearly based on your emotions and ideology rather than any facts. Please do better when posting on HN.
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2. Eumenes ◴[27 Nov 24 19:48 UTC] No.42259088[source]▶
correlation does not equal causation homie. a US news listicle with a method of ranking doesn't mean anything. i can find a list that has mass towards the middle or bottom depending on the bias of the ranking i share.
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3. teachrdan ◴[29 Nov 24 01:55 UTC] No.42270125[source]▶
I’d love to see such a list! In the meantime your argument is convincing in direct proportion to the quantity of data you have provided :)