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roguecoder ◴[] No.42250221[source]
The whole point of "gifted" was that these are kids who are disproportionally likely to drop out of school, engage in risky behavior, get pregnant, get bad grades, etc.

The problem is that A. they called it "gifted" so people thought it was something you _wanted_ your kids to be and B. the screening test they used was the IQ test, which you can massively improve your score on by studying for it. So parents were determined to get their kids into "gifted" education, and coached their kids on the tests to get in, and in the meantime kids from less-privileged backgrounds with the same characteristics were being labeled as behavioral problems and shunted into remedial programs.

Now that we have the label of "neurodivergent", it seems to me it would be productive to reframe "gifted" education as "neurodivergent" education: rich parents would stop trying to get their kids into it, and it would be able to serve the kids it was intended to serve.

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newsclues ◴[] No.42250348[source]
I was in the gifted program in Canada and while that may have been an aim, it was also to identify the best and given them opportunities to excel, to allow them to grow and go on to be extraordinary citizens.
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1. roguecoder ◴[] No.42250924[source]
That kind of moral value being given to what is just neurodiversity is a huge part of the problem. By implication, you've just called people with learning disabilities "the worst".

Neither group of children benefits from morality being attributed to their neurodivergence. Least of all the kids who overperform and have learning disabilities at the same time.

It is good that people are different. It doesn't make gifted kids better.

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2. newsclues ◴[] No.42258882[source]
No, it’s a recognition that the regular education system is for average or less students and society will benefit from extra education for the smartest.

You’re right, it’s good that people are different and celebrating and enhancing their gifts is a great thing rather than catering to the lowest common denominator