Everyone is capable of, and can benefit from, mathematical thinking

"It's the economy stupid" is what I would say. Mental capacity is capacity. Most of us don't study math not because we don't want to but because we can't.

I bet if you asked in a survey of people that if you were given a UBI that covered all your expenses and needs what would you do? It would be perfection of the self or art. Both of these are what is practicing and learning math.

I must disagree. I consider art same as entertainment to the most part. I would want to be good at math and I also disagree that it has anything to do with mental capacity. It's not a competition, I don't need to be better at math than others but my pursuit of other things like cryptography, better algorithms, and understanding physics is limited by my primitive understanding of mathematics.

If I was a multi-millionaire, learning lots of math on my free time would be one of the things I would pursue while chilling at my beach house.

Thanks.

> art same as entertainment

Could you volunteer me how much time you spend on it? And how is your day job?

> my pursuit of other things like cryptography, better algorithms, and understanding physics is limited by my primitive understanding of mathematics.

Could you volunteer why you would want to learn these subjects? Is it your day job or is it something you would like to pursue in the future.

> If I was a multi-millionaire, learning lots of math on my free time would be one of the things I would pursue while chilling at my beach house.

I said UBI

I don't think UBI is feasible, it is anathema to the human condition to be content with the bare minimum. if not for our own selves, we would want the best life possible for our loved ones (present or future). my "UBI" would be a couple of million dollars.

I want to learn those subjects because I enjoy learning and understanding. Life should be lived with knowledge applied through wisdom.

> Could you volunteer me how much time you spend on it? And how is your day job?

On entertainment? I can't tell you, I like to watch a movie or a tv show whenever I have time for it. There are more enjoyable pursuits in life, and most worthy pursuits involve adversity and require perseverance.

> I don't think UBI is feasible, it is anathema to the human condition to be content with the bare minimum.

Hm? That is exactly why UBI works, no? As the name indicates, the bare minimum is taken care so that you can work towards "the best life possible for our loved ones" without worrying about starving, sickness or homelessness.

In contrast, if you were wrong and people would be content with the bare minimum, then UBI would be a bad idea. Though then they could just commit some felonies and be content with having a cell, bread and water for the rest of their lives, no?

I posted a more detailed sibling comment on this thread, but that's not why UBI works. it just shifts what the "bare minimum" is. Most Americans aren't fighting to get the best tent spot while out on the streets because they can't afford housing or begging for food on the streets. UBI isn't solving that, except as a welfare replacement for a small percentage of the population (and not a great replacement either). maybe with UBI, everyone who lives in a crappy apartment can now afford a nicer apartment, but costs for the nicer apartment would naturally go up as well. In other words, most people won't quit their jobs because of UBI, they would just temporarily afford nicer things. Those that do quit their jobs can not work and not worry about starving, but that's not a new condition. if you don't want to work in America, you won't starve. maybe housing would be a problem but the people for whom housing would be a problem if they stopped working are not typically the same people who would be content with the cheapest/worst livable condition (UBI).

In short, it is silly to expect UBI to be a means by which people would work only if they want to work, and they would pursue their passions and dreams instead. That kind of a society I think is possible, but it would also have to reach a level of wealth where money itself is not required (think star trek).