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nominatronic ◴[] No.42198277[source]
> The researchers analyzed US-flagged ships less than 1,000 gross tonnage, which includes primarily passenger ships and three types of tugboats.

This is the buried lede. They are excluding basically all cargo shipping.

- Very little of the shipping industry is US-flagged. Most commercial ships sail under flags of convenience such as Panama and Libera, because of their reduced regulations and costs.

- Nobody carries cargo any distance in vessels of less than 1000 gross tons, because that scale would be uneconomical to operate. Modern seagoing cargo ships have about one crew member per 8000 tons of cargo.

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AcerbicZero ◴[] No.42198522[source]
Hah, if we're only going to talk only about tiny US ships, run them on whale oil for all I care.

Seems to me the 80/20 here would be to attack the problem near the top of the stack, not the bottom. Those massive heavy fuel oil burning container ships that basically just smog the ocean 24/7 might be a good target for improvements; as well as just general code enforcement.

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pingou ◴[] No.42198596[source]
For now it seems the improvements (sulphur regulations) only made the situation worse, in term of climate change.
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taeric ◴[] No.42199552[source]
I'm surprised I don't see that discussed more. Too easy to slide into denialism? I thought there was a strong case a lot of the immediate ocean temperature changes these past few years was this. Which is not to deny climate change, but we should pay attention to all changes. Instead, I've seen more denial that cloud seeding could do anything.
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1. two_handfuls ◴[] No.42210751[source]
It's included in the models all right.
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2. taeric ◴[] No.42211840[source]
But rarely discussed or acked by the press? Or have there been more stories that show how much of an impact it had? I remember one round of articles.