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akira2501 ◴[] No.42198624[source]
An entire department was just rendered useless. I genuinely don't feel bad.
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_DeadFred_ ◴[] No.42198825[source]
It was funny watching the warrior whatever site back in the day when Panda came along. Love when these people get their horrible business models kneecapped.

Now let's make corporate stock manipulation illegal again and ban corporate stock buybacks. Talk about a purely manipulative business strategy.

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red_trumpet ◴[] No.42198845[source]
What's the problem with stock buybacks?
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notyourwork ◴[] No.42198951[source]
Nothing directly, it just sounds bad at face value.
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_DeadFred_ ◴[] No.42199488[source]
'Stock manipulation is cool, especially when you change executives pay structure to be based purely on said manipulation. Totally creates healthy incentives not perverse ones.'
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notyourwork ◴[] No.42199861[source]
Sorry, buy backs are not stock manipulation. Let's step back from emotions and political skew. A company is able to take their capital and deploy it how they see fit. This can include purchasing percentage ownership of their company back from stockholders. Whether or not you agree doesn't make it manipulation in the general sense. It's just a way for a company to use their money.
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1. _DeadFred_ ◴[] No.42206966[source]
Why do they repurchase the stock? In order to impact the stock's value (also known as manipulating it's value). That is the definition of stock manipulation. No emotions involved, no need for the passive aggressive attack that I'm somehow being emotional.

It's not just a way for a company to use their money. It is a company intentionally using funds for stock manipulation, many times by executives who directly benefit from said manipulation. Companies even take out loans purely to re-purchase stock.

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2. notyourwork ◴[] No.42210450[source]
You have a shallow understanding of economics and the stock market. Sorry but your cynical view is not something that generalizes to stock buybacks. And the example of taking a loan out can be financially sound. Using debt when cheap to deploy capital can be beneficial.